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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    Graylle Celestia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    When you queue for the roulette, you accept that the dungeon you get may not be the dungeon you want. I mean.... that is what a roulette is....
    Why does your party need to suffer from your roulette loss as well? You are demanding and enforcing they take a hit for your RNG fail.
    This is your core problem. You are saying DF is something it is not. When you queue for a roulette, YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO LEAVE WITH A 30 MINUTE PENALTY. THAT IS WHAT A ROULETTE IS.

    WHEN YOU DON'T QUEUE AS A TANK, YOU RUN THE RISK THAT YOU GET A "BAD" TANK. THE "BAD" TANK DIDN'T FORCE YOU TO TAKE THAT RISK. YOU MADE THAT DECISION. THAT IS WHAT A ROULETTE IS.

    JUST LIKE HOW THE TANK HAS TO LIVE WITH NOT GETTING A PREFERRED DUNGEON BY EATING A 30 MINUTE PENALTY IF THEY LEAVE, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH NOT GETTING A "GOOD" TANK BY REQUEUING. THAT IS WHAT A ROULETTE IS.

    GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD.


    You are basing your definition of DF on your personal opinion.

    I am telling you what DF is based on reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    ^ The cost was the cost you placed on him. You are liable for that.
    I am not liable for his decision to not queue as a tank himself. He took that risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    You are arguing that you are justified in spending a "penalty" like a "currency." Do you truly not see anything wrong with that?
    One side is actually approaching the system as it factually exists.

    The other side, your side, is layering on their own system of morals onto the system and dictating to others how the system should be interpreted.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    You knowingly and deliberately took action to negatively impact the rest of you party
    How did the rest of the party do that to you?
    I am also a part of that party. So, when they force me to do something I don't want to do, they are negatively impacting part of the party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    ^ where? Also... remember you are 'leaving a dungeon' and preventing the party from playing their duty..... You didnt get your way, so you took your toys and went home. childish.

    Go right ahead. No one is telling you cant, but your actions are both childish and selfish. Don't cry when you are criticized for that, you earned it. Outlooks like yours are the reason we have things like DF penalties and Need/Greed enforcement.

    You lack empathy and are so focused on fulfilling your needs that you step on the people around you. Then when confronted about your behavior, you do things like blame the roulette system...
    And you don't lack empathy for not understanding the tank's situation? That's why you're a hypocrite -- despite both sides being guilty of selfishness, you only see one side. The TC, for the purpose of farming his anima weapon, is ALSO STEPPING ON THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. YOU JUST REFUSE TO SEE THAT.

    And where? No one is telling me I can't? YOU HAVE LITERALLY TOLD ME THAT I CAN'T QUEUE.

    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    If you dont want to do dungeons in the roulette, dont use the roulette.

    In short, when you queue roulette, you consent to being available for any possible duty within that roulette.
    THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS.

    And I am not crying about being called selfish by some SJW. I have admitted the behavior is selfish yet you think I haven't. I am pointing out that the same selfishness also exists on the other side. I am pointing out the lunacy in someone claiming that because DF can't be what they want, that other people don't get to partake in the actual system.

    And one final shot across the bow. SE has announced the rewards from ARF are tripling. I wonder why. Could it possibly be that they also acknowledge how stupid it is that the run is twice as long with far worse rewards than the alternatives? HMMMMMM.......................
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    Last edited by Brian_; 06-04-2016 at 06:12 PM.