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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    he's obviously playing cryptic as not to reveal anything. he did say when he's thinking SAM, he feels it would be more natural to have it as DPS. But sure, they could decide whatever. I think he and most players are in favor of it being DPS.
    Naturally he's being cryptic. And he certainly views it as a dps, because once again he is imagining a samurai archetype that is visually opposite of samurai's portrayal in the vast majority of final fantasy games by taking away it's iconic armor. So in order for him to make it make sense as a dps he had to strip it of all its armor to do so.

    And there's more dps players than tanks so like, that's how statistics work? Of course more people want it as a dps because they're a much bigger pool of people.

    Doesn't change the fact that tanking is crucial to this game and that adding only dps jobs will hurt this game rather than help it.
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  2. #322
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Let me try and make this as simple as possible for you then, since you seem to not be able to comprehend it.
    Since you're a smartass, you might as well simplify things for yourself to understand. So far, you're not right about anything, given your points are moot. How are they moot? Just read the rest of the thread.

    Also, no one needs your condescendent crap (which you do pretty often) when all they do is disagree with you. Keep it to yourself.

    Like I said earlier, please, keep walking down Reality Lane.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 05-01-2016 at 03:36 AM.

  3. #323
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    They blatantly shat on the FF lore way more than once. In fact, they did so to turn a job that uses armor (not unlike dragoon, actually) into a tank.
    I will admit I was initially upset by Dark Knight being a Tank (it is after all the one job i wanted since 1.0). However even then I could not pretend that it fit it's role better in this iteration than it would have as a DPS. Looking back at FFXI with the benefit hindsight I can see how bad things were for DRK pre two hand update (we were called wiff knights btw, piss poor accuracy values), our skills could and often did kill us (many a young DRK killed themselves on Soul Eater back in the day), and our skills made us a chore to have in the party for almost all healers.

    Looking at what we have now (while far from perfect) I am much happier with the fact they went back to the established roots of the job for the FFXIV iteration.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 05-01-2016 at 03:42 AM.

  4. #324
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    ya, see my edit there.
    anyway, if they did that, it would just end up severely limiting how many jobs they can add, cause of DoH/L, which is just silly.
    I agree it's silly but many will use that as the reasoning why a scythe combat class won't happen.

    Wouldn't be surprised if SAM wields a Naginata what with that whole xi event. Which is a Lance anyway.
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  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Looking at what we have now (while far from perfect) I am much happier with the fact They went back to the established roots of the job for the FFXIV iteration.
    Not this again lol. Gimme my roots, gimme my hp-consuming (what makes a DRK, a DRK) skill. Otherwise, don't talk about roots, I beg of you.

    Be happy with what you got, but don't tell me this is how they've always been, for fuck's sake, they took out their abilities to make it a tank. How much more obvious can something be. I love tanking, I adore tanking, but on a job that feels like a tank (always speaking FF-wise). I learned to enjoy DRK in FFXIV, as long as I don't think of it as a classic DRK, or a DRK at all. Simply because I've been waiting for it since 1.0.
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  6. #326
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Take a look at BDFF/BSEL. Now XIV. Which DRK would you pick?
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  7. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Since you're a smartass, you might as well simplify things for yourself to understand. So far, you're not right about anything, given your points are moot. How are they moot? Just read the rest of the thread.

    Also, no one needs your condescendent crap (which you do pretty often) when all they do is disagree with you. Keep it to yourself.

    Like I said earlier, please, keep walking down Reality Lane.
    "You're wrong because reasons."

    That's you right now. Please, if you're not able to disprove what I just said with your own words then, to use your words, keep it to yourself.

    It takes two to tango and you've certainly spouted your fair share of condescension here as well. It's ironic when you tell others to look at the bigger picture when you're incapable of it yourself.
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  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    "You're wrong because reasons."

    That's you right now. Please, if you're not able to disprove what I just said with your own words then, to use your words, keep it to yourself.

    It takes two to tango and you've certainly spouted your fair share of condescension here as well. It's ironic when you tell others to look at the bigger picture when you're incapable of it yourself.
    You're wrong because

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Since you're a smartass, you might as well simplify things for yourself to understand. So far, you're not right about anything, given your points are moot. How are they moot? Just read the rest of the thread.
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  9. #329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    You're wrong because
    Lmao, you mean this thread that includes all manner of people's opinions both for and against samurai as different roles? Please tell me how exactly the rest of this thread directly disproves the statements I said?
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  10. #330
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Lmao, you mean this thread that includes all manner of people's opinions both for and against samurai as different roles? Please tell me how exactly the rest of this thread directly disproves the statements I said?
    Hold on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Since you're a smartass, you might as well simplify things for yourself to understand. So far, you're not right about anything, given your points are moot. How are they moot? Just read the rest of the thread.
    See if you can connect both dots.

    Anyway, you're alone from here on, I'm kind of tired of your attitude. And coming from someone with an attitude, that's something.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 05-01-2016 at 04:09 AM.

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