SAMURAI SHOWDOWN

[Krissey]

Remember how in almost every anime ever the Samurai rushes forward, there's a flash of light, and 10 bad guys all fall over in a line dead? Or they show the same thing but the Samurai zig-zags through them and...there's a flash of light...and they all fall over dead?

What makes you think Samurai would be anything other than a DPS cutting down enemies just like in literally every anime ever?

[16bitBounty]

While I'll level it regardless it's not a class I'm thrilled about just like I wasn't thrilled about Ninja. Far east themed classes bore me, but anyway, the game needs more tanks. I do agree though that more tank classes won't bring more players to tank in any real sense. Players have to want to tank before they'll play a tank class. A few hardcore samurai fans will play it just to be called a samurai but at the end of the day they'd still probably rather be a dps and more willing than not to wait the ridiculous dps queue times to be dps.

[Alacran]

Remember how in almost every anime ever the Samurai rushes forward, there's a flash of light, and 10 bad guys all fall over in a line dead? Or they show the same thing but the Samurai zig-zags through them and...there's a flash of light...and they all fall over dead?

What makes you think Samurai would be anything other than a DPS cutting down enemies just like in literally every anime ever?

The idea is they are skilled enough to attack a lesser skilled opponent before they had time to react, head on. As you said they "rushed forward" not waited for someone else to turn the enemy away from them. If you can show a link to the anime you mentioned where the the Samurai fought like assassins using two handed Katana and attacked from behind the enemy as a DPS please share. I enjoy Anime with martial arts scenes.

[mosaicex]

Remember how in almost every anime ever the Samurai rushes forward, there's a flash of light, and 10 bad guys all fall over in a line dead? Or they show the same thing but the Samurai zig-zags through them and...there's a flash of light...and they all fall over dead?

What makes you think Samurai would be anything other than a DPS cutting down enemies just like in literally every anime ever?

Because the very idea of Samurai poking behind monsters' back for 10 minutes instead of facing it heads-on is rather amusing, don't you think? And since you're using animay as a source for your point, can you point me to where Samurai fought like this?

[MagiusNecros]

Because the very idea of Samurai poking behind monsters' back for 10 minutes instead of facing it heads-on is rather amusing, don't you think? And since you're using animay as a source for your point, can you point me to where Samurai fought like this?

Samurai Jack is pretty great.

That said I could attribute the same point with Dark Knights lining up Corpses and yet here we are with Dark Knight the Tank class.

[16bitBounty]

My only experience with a dark knight was from Illusion of Gaia so all I gathered was, magic power, big sword. Still hoping for that Freedan look.

[Krissey]

Because the very idea of Samurai poking behind monsters' back for 10 minutes instead of facing it heads-on is rather amusing, don't you think? And since you're using animay as a source for your point, can you point me to where Samurai fought like this?

Samurai X, Rurouni Kenshin, Samurai Champloo, 7 Samurai, etc... We all know the trope. They kill their enemies in a single blow 10 v 1 and everyone standing nearby is shocked and amazed at their l33t skillz0rs. It's tantamount to DPS - killing so quickly and so precisely the enemy can't fight back.

Whether it looks funny in game mechanics or not is irrelevant. I believe the fantasy they're going for would be a swift striking DPS that probably deals lots of burst damage so against lesser creatures and foes out in world/trash packs they'll tear right through them with ease. Monks, NIN, Dragoons all "fight from the front" out in the world.

Traditionally Pikemen would line up like this: So do Dragoons seem silly because they're not lined up in front of the monsters tanking stabbing them in the face?

[mosaicex]

Traditionally Pikemen would line up like this So do Dragoons seem silly because they're not lined up in front of the monsters tanking stabbing them in the face?

Dragoon are Dragoon and Pikemen are Pikemen. What's your point? Is this how we're going to do it?

Both Paladin and Dark Knight use swords. Should they fight the same way too?

[Krissey]

Dragoon are Dragoon and Pikemen are Pikemen. What's your point? Is this how we're going to do it?

Both Paladin and Dark Knight use swords. Should they fight the same way too?

Because you literally said, and I quote

Because the very idea of Samurai poking behind monsters' back for 10 minutes instead of facing it heads-on is rather amusing, don't you think?

so...I guess that's how we're going to do this. Dragoon are essentially Pikemen - the use spears and attack their enemy. They're certainly not calvary, they don't have horses.

People want to be like "But Samurai attacking from behind is silly right?" So...so are Dragoons by that logic - because in the real world, just like "real Samurai", (btw there aren't any anymore, just like there are not any real Pikemen) they attack from the front...

Don't be mad I'm answering your question "Wouldn't it be silly" with another class that also "attacks from the front" but actually attacks from the sides/back. I mean...when do martial artists punch each other from the back/sides? MMA, UFC, Boxing, Kick Boxing, Muai Thai etc...none of them only punch each other from the sides/back...so Monks are silly too right?

[Shippuu]

True. Or they could reverse it

Sure, except one of these setups creates far less work than the other. Samurai as a tank means it can still share fending armor with the other tanks, and has a common damage type along with the other tanks. Red Mage, not so much.