SAMURAI SHOWDOWN

[silentwindfr]

i did say that actually in the principle the samurai tank is no different than a war with a different mechanic at the place of rage. what it is.

let's summarize what is the war as tank:

- physical resilient tank mostly (sam will be the same since he will not use magic)
- using a 2 hand weapon (same will be the same, i don't see them going throught dual katana for sam since it will be a bit like ninja)
- using mostly parry as mitigation (same for the samurai, since no magic and will have no shield then all in parry!)
- have ton of life (that the part that can be different)
- use the combo system (all the melee use it)
- is more offensive (sam will too be extremely offensive)
- use 2 stance, 1 dps and 1 tank (if the sam is a tank he will too have 2 stance)

rage mechanic is the special trait of the jobs, but outside this and the hp pool... most of the stuff will be redundant with the sam as tank.

you can try to make the mechanic specific of the samurai special... all the rest will be the same. DRK avoid this by relying a lot on magic... but samurai is not a magical job.

plus like said yoshida will have the last word into this, and i doubt they will had a samurai as tank because they are lazy, they will try to bring a new experience for the new tank (when it will happend)

mark my word, samurai will not be a tank, too much feature of the samurai as potential tank is already used by the other tank already present (mostly the war) and Yoshida have said that he will added a jobs if he bring something new to the group and the game. samurai as tank will bring nothing new...

for the balance and work, sorry to say this but i doubt they care for this, so far they have done everything for do bring new experience (not always succeding) and when the developpement did take a turn that was looking lazy is mostly because of limitation of time. however an expansion is worked on since the last expansion is ready to be shiped... they had time to work on it for a looong moment.

[Ciri_Wolf]

WAR and DRK are arguably the coolest classes in the game. Not sure how any tank players can even consider being upset if DPS got a cool swordsman of their own.

[Calypsx]

WAR and DRK are arguably the coolest classes in the game.

Maybe if you're into that angry edgy stuff but those are two of my least favorite jobs thematically in the entire game.

I want an eastern themed tank. I want a tank from Doma, I even want a healer from Doma.

[NailBach]

i hope it's a healer. Hit someone with your sword to heal, cut off poisoned limbs, etc....

[MagiusNecros]

Issue I take with DPS SAM is it's defenses will suffer, will likely share maiming gear and will most likely offer little to nothing and like most DPS have little responsibility in a majority of content compared to say a Tank or healer. Kinda like how it's expected for a DRG to screw up and no one will care.

On Tank side it's AP will suffer, will rely on parry to do anything, share fending gear and we will have 4 physical tanks as far as weapons are concerned. What will that offer? Very little. Could say DRK's parry mechanics was testing the waters for SAM.

[jazo]

Blue mage as a mage tank
Dancer as a melee healer
Samurai as a TP juggle DPS (like, how blm eats all their MP an then Regen it)

There, balanced and new play style jobs for the trinity.

[Yhisa]

Cant we just all agree that players only want samurai due to nostalgia sake only?

[Shurrikhan]

Cant we just all agree that players only want samurai due to nostalgia sake only?

I think it's more that some of those assuming the worst would still find it playable if only due to branding.
Those assuming nothing at all want what they once enjoyed (thinking it'll somehow be nearly the same).
Those hoping the best want it for what new gameplay components it could potentially introduce, which may happen to include certain classics as well.

[Tanathya]

Cant we just all agree that players only want samurai due to nostalgia sake only?

Which is not the case.

[ADVSS]

I think people want iconic Final Fantasy jobs in a Final Fantasy MMO, not just for nostalgia sake. Also find it odd that Red Mage has been around since the very first FF and yet we have to wait at least another year to see it, if it is included in this next expansion.