3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

[Daimera]

I would like to have solid The Feast teames in 4vs4 light party, because the carrying that some high ranked players do is something I cannot approve. What is your opinion about this?

[SaveTheSunF1R3x]

I would like to have solid The Feast teames because the carrying that some high ranked players do is something I cannot approve. What is your opinion about this?

Honestly I've seen the top 25 people derp more than the lower tier people. There's maybe 5 people on the top 100 that I can legitimately say are carrying their matches. This is all coming from primal btw.

[kisada]

really just depends on whom you're playing with. being a higher ranked player definitely doesn't mean that guy is better than someone ranked lower.

though it'll be more likely in general depending on how high you go.

[TetsuyaHikari]

So all the top tier / top 10 players on pretty much every data center are noobs then, huh? Yeah... no. Almost all of them, or at least the tanks and DDs, are wearing 3-6 pieces of 180/205 PvP gear to optimize their stats. If you wanna come across like a smartass, at least get your facts straight.

Lol no

Trust me, I've been checking since he mentioned it and most of the players that I meet up with in there are not even wearing PvP gear, so I'm not even sure where he's getting his "facts". And yes, just because you're in the top 10 doesn't mean you can't still be a noob. I've already seen a few of them (on the enemy side and my own side) which don't deserve the rank, but have gotten where they are because of RNG (basically getting stuck with good players to help carry them).

You can't automatically assume everyone in the top tier/top 10 is actually good just because of their rank/tier. If this were a better matchmaking system, you'd be onto something here... But because this one is controlled heavily by RNG, it basically separates the players with good luck from the players with bad luck and that factors more into the equation than anyone's skill right now.

[xxczx]

Get a grip dude.

There are some classes you just cannot achieve your BiS stats without PvP gear. I see you also completely dodged the materia conversation, do you meld PvP materia to PvE gear too by any chance?

[TetsuyaHikari]

Get a grip dude.

There are some classes you just cannot achieve your BiS stats without PvP gear. I see you also completely dodged the materia conversation, do you meld PvP materia to PvE gear too by any chance?

And I'm telling you there are some classes you just cannot achieve your BiS with PvP gear. PvP gear isn't the be-all of BiS with every job, so please stop trying to say it is. From my experience, there are more jobs which don't use PvP gear for their BiS than there are that actually do, so again... For the most part, PvP gear is irrelevant. As for your materia comment... I know you're just being condescending now, so I'm not even going to dignify this with a proper response.

If you missed the point of my post, that's fine. Just don't try to pull me down in the mud with you because your facts don't check out and you need someone to shoulder the blame with you.

[xxczx]

And I'm telling you there are some classes you just cannot achieve your BiS with PvP gear.

BRD/MCH: The only head pieces with Crit+Det is either the i180 PvP or the i220 crafted and the ONLY hands is the PvP ones.
MNK: The only leg piece with Crit+Det is the PvP ones
NIN: Again, the only belt with Crit+Det is the belt
DRG: Feet? Better get the PvP one since that's the only one with Crit+Det.
BLM: Belt is the only Crit+Det, if Crit+SS hands.
SMN: Belt is the only Crit-Det.
PLD/DRK/WAR: The only body with Crit+Det is PvP.

You get my point. Missed off healers because of the preference on BiS.

[TetsuyaHikari]

BRD/MCH: The only head pieces with Crit+Det is either the i180 PvP or the i220 crafted and the ONLY hands is the PvP ones.
MNK: The only leg piece with Crit+Det is the PvP ones
NIN: Again, the only belt with Crit+Det is the belt
DRG: Feet? Better get the PvP one since that's the only one with Crit+Det.
BLM: Belt is the only Crit+Det, if Crit+SS hands.
SMN: Belt is the only Crit-Det.
PLD/DRK/WAR: The only body with Crit+Det is PvP.

You get my point. Missed off healers because of the preference on BiS.

>April 2016
>still thinking PvP gear is BiS instead of Midan gear

I lol'd

[Dimitrii]

>April 2016
>still thinking PvP gear is BiS instead of Midan gear

I lol'd

Not doing yourself any favors here. No one claimed PVP gear was BiS on all slots of all jobs. Nor has anyone claimed you could achieve BiS without the inclusion of any PVE gear. You seem to be distorting all comments directed at you if they don't match your perception of what BiS is. Perhaps your version of BiS does incorporate significant amounts of stats such as accuracy but that's not in line with what the vast majority of PVP players are trying to maximize in PVP. You basically went from saying all PVP gear is useless on all slots, to saying there are some slots you cannot achieve BiS without the use of PVE (which in turn is implying that some slots do have PVP gear as BiS for the purpose of pvp), back to all pvp gear is irrelevant. How can something be irrelevant yet be BiS on some slots for some jobs? Nobody is saying PVP gear is some godly all purpose gear, just that it does serve some purpose for some jobs. There's also no point in laughing at someone else's post when even more people probably laughed at your implication that materia melds on PVE gear actually do anything in pvp.

[GrumbleBeard]

>April 2016
>still thinking PvP gear is BiS instead of Midan gear

I lol'd

Resorting to meme arrows? Next you'll say you were only pretending, right?
Really though, there have been quite a few conversations on the forums regarding accuracy and the importance of secondary stats, but I still see many players who default to thinking that the pvp gear is just trash. A full set of it? Sure. Bits and pieces of them are still valuable. How much of a real impact having that small boost in secondaries makes I am not so sure of, but capping them out is pretty much the only "customization" of gear we get in this game and I like the i150 cap for that.