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    Player
    kisada's Avatar
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    Kisada Exis
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    Behemoth
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    agree. mnk is the prime example of how you should add a vibrancy and robustness to a pvp class.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 64
    You know, Monk has always bugged me... Off the top of my head, it's the only Job with PvP skills that actually tie in to its PvE skills, getting Greased Lightning III and Perfect Balance out of PvP skills... Where is that sort of tie in for other Jobs? I think a prime example is Ninjas Ill Wind. Axe Kick grants Greased Lightning III? Why doesn't Ill Wind grant Huton? Why even stop there, having PvP skills grant PvE effects is one thing, but why not have PvE mechanics adjust PvP skills? Ill Wind is essentially just AoE Jugulate, yet does it function the same way? No, your current Venom doesn't determine whether it's an AoE Silence or AoE Stun, it's only ever an AoE Silence...

    They could do a lot more interesting things with PvP skills, yet they kinda just half did it for Monk and gave up... Doesn't help that so many PvP skills are shared across several Jobs I suppose, but I'd love to see more unique PvP skills that actually share a dynamic with the rest of a Jobs skill set... You know what I'd love? If Dark Arts Carnal Chill actually froze enemies, that switches it from effectively mitigation, to an additional Stun and it lets us get more use out of skills like Salted Earth...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 05-11-2016 at 08:31 AM.

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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Everybody and their grandfather plays Monk now its the latest flavor of the month. While I would never say no to buffs for me on DRG I dont really feel disadvantaged when compared to Monk and NIN aside from the fact that as a DRG I now have unquestionably the WORST mobility out of all melee dps, and therefore am much much more susceptible to being held down and having my dps slowed down via CC.
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    Death Fury
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    I think DRG should have the Elusive Jump CD shortened. It's just on too long of a CD to be considered useful and very rarely does backflipping in the opposite direction help you achieve your goal. It's mainly for escaping an LB/Bind but on a 3 minute cooldown? It can only be used twice in the Feast at the very most. I think it's a missed opportunity having it on such a long cooldown, especially as DRG has the worst mobility by far.
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by itsoni View Post
    I think DRG should have the Elusive Jump CD shortened.
    Agreed. Even in PvE, the cooldown is obnoxiously long for it's effect. It's hardly used, so there's really not much harm in shortening it's timer.
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    Ricebowl's Avatar
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    Rice Bowl
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Can we change SCH's dinky knockback skill to something more substantial? It's really dumb how SCH have so few tools to make themselves live under heavy focus. WHMs have fluid aura, sleep, and Sacred Prism. AST have lightspeed and celestial opposition. SCH have... nothing. You use attunement then eat dirt.

    I would be happy attaching a 5s slow + heavy to anyone hit by it or a 2s stun. It's on such a long cooldown for maybe ~1s of breathing room before they use a gap closer. Absolutely garbage skill. The only real use it has is knocking people off the spawn point.
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    Last edited by Ricebowl; 05-11-2016 at 02:00 PM.

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    SaveTheSunF1R3x's Avatar
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    Kyotsuke Mashuzu
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricebowl View Post
    Can we change SCH's dinky knockback skill to something more substantial? It's really dumb how SCH have so few tools to make themselves live under heavy focus. WHMs have fluid aura, sleep, and Sacred Prism. AST have lightspeed and celestial opposition. SCH have... nothing. You use attunement then eat dirt.

    I would be happy attaching a 5s slow + heavy to anyone hit by it or a 2s stun. It's on such a long cooldown for maybe ~1s of breathing room before they use a gap closer. Absolutely garbage skill. The only real use it has is knocking people off the spawn point.
    we did have a slow until smn took it away from us
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricebowl View Post
    Can we change SCH's dinky knockback skill to something more substantial? It's really dumb how SCH have so few tools to make themselves live under heavy focus. WHMs have fluid aura, sleep, and Sacred Prism. AST have lightspeed and celestial opposition. SCH have... nothing. You use attunement then eat dirt.

    I would be happy attaching a 5s slow + heavy to anyone hit by it or a 2s stun. It's on such a long cooldown for maybe ~1s of breathing room before they use a gap closer. Absolutely garbage skill. The only real use it has is knocking people off the spawn point.
    Give us WHM'S healy puddle. I feel so underpowered as SCH. It works great in 8v8 but the class can't support 4v4 so well. :/
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    Tyrandius Lightforge
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Hey guys -- working on my first 60 (getting the xpac today!), and super new to the game. I'm coming from WoW (don't hate me!), and a couple friends and I are looking to level a PVP toon after I finish working on my PLD. Are there any posts/sites that talk about compositions that synergize well? Looking for what to level next, and most importantly, looking to put together a really strong group as we level.
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