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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    I wish we could see some rankings applied to more casual play of the feast as well... I don't feel that there is much reason to jump into 8v8, other then the pvp xp rewards, it would be nice if there were ranking play lists for thsoe larger groups as well... I find that I have one or two friends who want to play but it's hard finding that fourth member some times, so having a mix size group ranking play list could be fun as well.
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    Can we get an official response already as to whether this Ninja hiding with medals nonsense is working as intended or what? If we could also bar DRK from being able to queue until they actually buff that job in 3.3 that would be awesome as well >.> Also wtf is up with every loss seemingly being a static -25 yet wins barely net 20 points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    If we could also bar DRK from being able to queue until they actually buff that job in 3.3 that would be awesome as well >.>
    But I like queuing as Dark Knight and ruining everyones day...
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    Can Feast-solo queue please be changed so you are never queued against someone on your server.


    I'm just now hearing about so and so got boosted to a high rank.
    I'm not sure if this is something that can be discussed on the forums though. If we can discuss it: can we discuss it right? SO..


    Don't mention anyone specific. Thats an obvious support desk, report.

    Don't discuss about how boosting was or is done. I think that covers it but i'm still worried about posting this.


    But please for Feast-solo queue, don't let people from the same server be in the same fight. ;___;
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    Last edited by Bloodb; 05-16-2016 at 05:02 AM.

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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodb View Post
    Can Feast-solo queue please be changed so you are never queued against someone on your server.
    I'm not really sure what you're specifically getting at here, since you're doing a pretty fantastic job of skirting around it, but ... queue times...

    I don't have a terribly active server/world as it is (at least, not that I've noticed), but that doesn't mean that I want to remove an entire world worth of queues out of my queue line. Illicit activities or otherwise, I still want to at least get into matches. If anything, I would prefer if they merged a few data centres together to increase the number of players, not reduce them. Most of the time I don't even pay attention (gotta catch that queue train), but sometimes it's fun to see a fellow Diabolos member in the end-results. It's nice to know that there are other people in my world that queue for PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I'm not really sure what you're specifically getting at here, since you're doing a pretty fantastic job of skirting around it, but ... queue times...
    I don't have a terribly active server/world as it is (at least, not that I've noticed), but that doesn't mean that I want to remove an entire world worth of queues out of my queue line. Illicit activities or otherwise, I still want to at least get into matches. If anything, I would prefer if they merged a few data centres together to increase the number of players, not reduce them. Most of the time I don't even pay attention (gotta catch that queue train), but sometimes it's fun to see a fellow Diabolos member in the end-results. It's nice to know that there are other people in my world that queue for PvP.
    Can you get banned or reported for throwing matches on purpose? How hard would it be to detect someone doing this?.. Even subtlety


    Hypothetically, I wish that the option of say 175 people in the same free company all decide to want to play feast - solo, maybe even at 6am

    Even if this would increase queue times, i hope it's something that can be addressed to retain the feasts incorruptibility. Maybe this can happen if groups of 2 data centers were merged together. Then maybe changed the top ranking to be top 150, top 15, top 3 for rewards.



    Edit: After calming down I hope the best of people, but deep down suspect foul play. Voice chat would even bypass any evidence of cordination. It's like triple-triad tournament 2.0 but a much longer tournament. Good for them, this is good practice to try not to let what others do bother you personally. :/
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    Last edited by Bloodb; 05-16-2016 at 08:07 PM. Reason: added more

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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    But I like queuing as Dark Knight and ruining everyones day...
    I like seeing Drk's on the enemy team too. It means I don't have to baby sit my healer as much, and I might actually get some use out of Tempered Will if they happen to smack me with a Tar Pit.

    Jokes aside, I don't actually mind seeing a Drk on the enemy team. It doesn't feel like they pressure my healer as much as a War does, but it also doesn't feel like they're miles behind, either; so, I mostly treat them the same way. I just keep an eye on them and smack em with a shield if they look like they're becoming more trouble than they're worth. As they are now, they're definitely lacking, but I think SE has to be very delicate when they consider what to do with the job as they move forward so not to go overboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Also wtf is up with every loss seemingly being a static -25 yet wins barely net 20 points?
    This is really starting to bug me... +19 for a win, -28 for a loss... Plus I have no idea what is causing that variation... I suspect it is a combination of the difference in total party rating (in which case matchmaking can go to hell) and current rank, but I'd rather not get worked up trying to figure out why I get hit with such shitty rating rewards... Always fun to watch a weeks progress flushed away because reasons... Bad enough matchmaking calls a novice healer v one of the top DPS "balanced"...

    I'm really quite sick of the rating/matchmaking system... Someone feel free to claim its fine, we have a leaderboard where around half the players aren't actively participating... If that's not a damning critique of Feast, I don't know what is... Matchmaking isn't the only issue there (the rewards are a huge part IMO), but the prevailing meta is "Don't play once you get 1,100+ rating" because the matchmaking/rating system can completely strip you of that in a matter of hours... I don't mind losing when teams are balanced, but they rarely are...

    I don't even care if we don't have the playerbase for a tighter matchmaking system, I'll take longer queues for consistently enjoyable matches, over short queues for utter tripe... I'd say getting completely destroyed by someone on their way to Platinum is going to turn more new players off than long queues anyway, and we know for a fact that plenty of existing players are turning away regardless of queue time... The alternative is changing the rating system so it isn't such a frustrating mess, you can't just copy a rating system from games where one person can carry a team and slap it in here, where that is far from the case... Instead we have a system where it seems you're actively punished for being good... Matchmaking balances out the teams terribly and you end up losing more and gaining less the higher up you go... It's a fucking horrible system and it's no wonder so many are turning away from it, which sadly just compounds the problem since now you're almost certainly stuck playing with worse players as all the good ones get their 1,100+ rating and bail...

    guess who just went from 1,000+ to 800 in the space of two days
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    Last edited by Nalien; 05-18-2016 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    This is really starting to bug me... +19 for a win, -28 for a loss... Plus I have no idea what is causing that variation...
    Its the platinums that are fking up the points. If you have a platinum on your team he is nerfing your points hardcore if you win. Beat an all gold team and got a pedestrian +19 because we had a platinum on our team. I like facing off against platinums since its fun to go up against top tier but if they gonna keep gimping my points for wins I'd rather not see them at all in my lobbies. +19 is fking terrible when losses avg no less than -25 and oftentimes even higher (i've had losses that were -30 rank points). Not only that but if you get locked against the platinum they fk up your queues even worse than it already is for gold ranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Its the platinums that are fking up the points. If you have a platinum on your team he is nerfing your points hardcore if you win. Beat an all gold team and got a pedestrian +19 because we had a platinum on our team. I like facing off against platinums since its fun to go up against top tier but if they gonna keep gimping my points for wins I'd rather not see them at all in my lobbies. +19 is fking terrible when losses avg no less than -25 and oftentimes even higher (i've had losses that were -30 rank points). Not only that but if you get locked against the platinum they fk up your queues even worse than it already is for gold ranks.
    ya, unless the other team has a plat that will happen ;/
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