Progression: Eos+AST vs Selene+WHM

[FoxyAreku]

Actually EoS would be used if healers got split up or chamber away for a long period of time because SCH would have no HoT or healer to babysit him instead

Literally not a single fight where this happens.

Yup, when a group has everything on farm AST+Selene is the clear winner. I'm mostly speaking about progression. I normally never use Eos, but this tier I've started to find a lot of situations where she's quite useful in the later fights of Midas.

I've not seen any in A5S or A6S, but if you're further than that I can't speak of it as that's as far as I've been.

[KarstenS]

I've not seen any in A5S or A6S, but if you're further than that I can't speak of it as that's as far as I've been.

Pre Nerf there were already some critical situations in A6 where the buffs of Eos helped alot. Post Nerf the raid wide damage got reduced very noticeable.

How long and far are you in A6?

[FoxyAreku]

Pre Nerf there were already some critical situations in A6 where the buffs of Eos helped alot. Post Nerf the raid wide damage got reduced very noticeable.

How long and far are you in A6?

3rd guy

Personally, I prefer Eos. The added healing abilities are really nice (fey illum + adlo + convalescence + defiance + deploy = dayum shield), whispering dawn is incredibly useful to help keep you DPSing and healing less and Fey Cov is great for reducing your teams incoming damage. That is a lot to trade for a buff that gives your team members 1 extra GCD every ~140 seconds of constant attacking. The only time I currently use Selene is vs Hummelfaust.

DPS gain is a DPS gain.
I usually run with a white mage, so Eos is just unnecessary for me. Even back in coil in heal intensive stuff like T13 I never needed her.

[Kaurie]

DPS gain is a DPS gain.
I usually run with a white mage, so Eos is just unnecessary for me. Even back in coil in heal intensive stuff like T13 I never needed her.

DPS gain is only really achieved when you have 140+ seconds of continuous battle, not obtained when things interrupt that such as jumps etc. Where if you battled for 60 seconds, you would not get an extra GCD and would simply have finished at ~59.1 seconds instead. And yes, i realize that is technically a DPS gain.

Further, increased healing output of Eos allows for you to DPS more which may very well be a larger DPS gain for your team. Having Eos use rouse + Whispering dawn may allow for both you and your WHM to DPS.

[FoxyAreku]

DPS gain is only really achieved when you have 140+ seconds of continuous battle, not obtained when things interrupt that such as jumps etc. Where if you battled for 60 seconds, you would not get an extra GCD and would simply have finished at ~59.1 seconds instead. And yes, i realize that is technically a DPS gain.

Further, increased healing output of Eos allows for you to DPS more which may very well be a larger DPS gain for your team. Having Eos use rouse + Whispering dawn may allow for both you and your WHM to DPS.

You also have to consider though that the spell speed/skill speed would help anyone who places their dots while it's up (since it's a 30 second buff, pretty much everyone will refresh their dots at least once during the duration).

But yeah.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

You also have to consider though that the spell speed/skill speed would help anyone who places their dots while it's up (since it's a 30 second buff, pretty much everyone will refresh their dots at least once during the duration).

Aren't you forgetting something?

[Kaurie]

You also have to consider though that the spell speed/skill speed would help anyone who places their dots while it's up (since it's a 30 second buff, pretty much everyone will refresh their dots at least once during the duration).

But yeah.

Fey Wind was changed and does not affect spell speed and skill speed, but just attack speed (or recast time). Cast it on yourself and check your attributes, your spell speed remains unchanged.

[FoxyAreku]

Fey Wind was changed and does not affect spell speed and skill speed, but just attack speed (or recast time). Cast it on yourself and check your attributes, your spell speed remains unchanged.

Always assumed attack speed was a way of saying both, considering my casting speed goes down with fey.