Progression: Eos+AST vs Selene+WHM

[Ghishlain]

please don't post something if u have not read the quote

Okay, I'm going to bite and just extend off Judge_Xero's quote

The 3% speed increase is not additive each time you use it.

It is 3% for 30s @ 60s CD. So on CD it is a 1.5% increase in speed.

You can determine the average increase in attack speed by taking the effect duration and dividing it by the total time it's off cooldown.

Fey Wind is a 3% attack speed bost.
Fey Wind lasts for 30s
Fey Wind has a cooldown of 60s

Fey Wind therefore provides a [(3% Attack Speed) X (30 seconds)] / 60 seconds = 1.5% attack speed buff every minute on average.

Since the buff doesn't have an infinite duration / longer duration than the cooldown, it's not possible for the buff to stack higher and higher. You get a window of 3% attack speed buff then a window of 0% attack speed and those 30 second windows alternate leading into the average listed above.

One does not simply multiply 3% attack speed buff by the amount of minutes the fight goes on for to get the average attack speed reduction for a fight.

So, to quote you:

u dumb

Also, to quote you (with an edit):

please don't post something if u have do not read comprehend the quote

[Jukebox12]

with upkeep of the buff in 10 mins u get 300 secs of 600 secs which is half
the buff is 3% so in upkeep u get 1.5% per min=60 secs
600/60=10
1.5% is ur upkeep
10 mins is the duration
1.5%*10=15%

15% is your gain

9%-30% please tell me where 15% is cuz dumb people cannot



please tell me how u got the decimal point incorrect

[Rawrz]

.015 is 1.5% the duration of the raid is X.
the duration of the fight is 10 mins
1.5% or .015*X
1.5%*10=15%



please tell me how u got the decimal point incorrect

Lets do that math ONE more time. No analogy strong enough, for you, I guess.

You do 1000 DPS on your DRK without Selene in one Minute.
With Selene you do 1.5% more. So you do 1015 DPS with Selene in one minute. (Thats not really how her buff works but we'll pretend it does. You need 3 fey winds to feel her effect.)
Over the course of 10 minutes your DRK keeps up with a 1000 DPS (Thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 600,000 Raid damage. (1000 DPS x 60 seconds x 10 minutes)
With Selene present he has kept up with 1015 DPS (Again thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 609,000 raid Damage.

600, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1000 damage per each second.
609, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1015 damage per each second.

Although you did 9,000 more damage for the encounter, you did not do 9,000 more damage in a single moment. You kept the same slope of increase the entire time.

Please read this carefully. If there isn't something you understand, just ask. It somewhat feels that you may have a language barrier preventing us from understanding each other or it might just be your overuse of "u."

[Jukebox12]

u do 1000 DPS on your DRK without Selene in one Minute.
With Selene you do 1.5% more. So you do 1015 DPS with Selene in one minute. (Thats not really how her buff works but we'll pretend it does. You need 3 fey winds to feel her effect.)
Over the course of 10 minutes your DRK keeps up with a 1000 DPS (Thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 600,000 Raid damage. (1000 DPS x 60 seconds x 10 minutes)
With Selene present he has kept up with 1015 DPS (Again thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 609,000 raid Damage.

600, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1000 damage per each second.
609, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1015 damage per each second.



u."

u know u just answer my 15% right

its 7.5% increase if u said you needed 3 my math is wrong its .0083 or something like that

[Rawrz]

is the buff duration 60 in this cuz I know its 30

The buff duration is 30 seconds at 3%. You did the math earlier to show how over the course of 1 minute the buff would be worth 1.5% since the buff only has a 50% uptime out of 60 seconds.

30/60=.5
.5*.03=.015

[Jukebox12]

The buff duration is 30 seconds at 3%. You did the math earlier to show how over the course of 1 minute the buff would be worth 1.5% since the buff only has a 50% uptime out of 60 seconds.

I derp up did not read but I did edit

[Ghishlain]

I'll leave this table here, maybe it'll be helpful in trying to explain Rawrz's example.

You have to see how much total damage you've done in a particular time frame with the Fey Wind buff and without the Fey Wind buff and compare how much higher the buffed value is versus the unbuffed value. You'll see that this value never exceeds 3%.

[EDIT] Also to note that as the fight goes on, the damage increase % gets closer and closer to 1.50%