Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
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Even with nerfs Gordias Savage still won't be completed by most of the player base, and IF Midas Savage gets nerfed (which 4 probably will not unless you count Echo buffs as a nerf for it) it'll probably not be completed by most people either until it can be undersized 10 levels above it. The next VA also will only bring the upgrades for armor, the weapon upgrade won't be realeased until 3.4 so if you aren't doing Savage the relic will infact be better by 3.3 in comparison to Lore.

As far as using our current primals and the like for the relic: I'm with you, and I think alot of players as well would rather have things like that instead of a grind. But SE saw numerous people complaining about how they couldn't get a relic because of one fight wrecking everyone (Remember the complaints about how much of a DPS race Gordias was? Titan HM was just as bad for most people, to the point they were dropping a tank for another DPS and still not meeting the check). Now if they get enough feedback maybe they'll try it again, maybe even at some point this relic. But I wouldn't hold my breath for the next few steps.