Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Dualblade]

Hmm so the 230 stage being so easy justifies this? Doesn't make sense. Why is the 230 stage so easy it really does not make sense imo since it is easiest 230 weapon to get assuming all stages completed before...

Its easy because the Lore weapon is easy. Unless you are doing Savage all you have to do is wait 7 weeks and have atleast 1000 Lore which unless you are absolutely lazy OR only hit 60 last week you have 1000 Lore right now. Relic if you haven't gotten it up to 210 yet still requires the previous grind and unless one is near the end will probably take them longer then next reset.


If you look at the ARR Relic a similar thing happened with Zenith. All you needed to do was buy three items (though I believe it required the capped currency instead of uncapped at the time) and boom instant i90 weapon. Not only was this MUCH easier then the first part (mostly because of no Titan HM), it ended up contributing to the raid weapons getting a +5 ilvl since i90 was the highest you could get to at the time.

Look at the end of the ARR relic too. The second to last step was the hardest grind out of all of em because of the amount of items required, yet the next and final step was considered a very easy grind.

[ScarletDawn]

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You have to do Midas 4, which is harder then doing the Oils weekly...so again how does it justify? The 230 stage should be hard imo and the 210 stage easier.

[Felis]

You have to do Midas 4, which is harder then doing the Oils weekly...so again how does it justify? The 230 stage should be hard imo and the 210 stage easier.

- midas weapon is ilevel 245
- next relic quest, that upgrade the relic to 240, will be mostly a 1.5 months grind again. The 210 step will not be nerfed before the 240 step is ingame.

[ScarletDawn]

- midas weapon is ilevel 245
- next relic quest, that upgrade the relic to 240, will be mostly a 1.5 months grind again. The 210 step will not be nerfed before the 240 step is ingame.

Problem there lies in the time it will take, because after those 1.5 month 3.4 will come out with the Lore upgrade and Savage will be nerfed like last time making those easier to obtain...SE never learns.

[Dualblade]

Problem there lies in the time it will take, because after those 1.5 month 3.4 will come out with the Lore upgrade and Savage will be nerfed like last time making those easier to obtain...SE never learns.

Just gonna point out the last one (on limited time): You honestly think the nerfs to Savage will lead to alot of people being able to clear it, multiple times?

[ScarletDawn]

Just gonna point out the last one (on limited time): You honestly think the nerfs to Savage will lead to alot of people being able to clear it, multiple times?

Nerfs will make the weapons easier to obtain compared to how it was before, when i say Midas 4 NM for the cog is still not easy plain sailing (ppl keep using different names for the Midas sections and name Savage differently) Again the new "Void ark" will bring out the weekly to upgrade Lore items which then will give players instant 240 items...

I just cant justify a grind anymore. Only reason the 210 was a grind was to keep people doing Alex since it became pointless due to Eso gear. We have 4 primal fights why cant we use those like the old relic did?

[Dualblade]

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Even with nerfs Gordias Savage still won't be completed by most of the player base, and IF Midas Savage gets nerfed (which 4 probably will not unless you count Echo buffs as a nerf for it) it'll probably not be completed by most people either until it can be undersized 10 levels above it. The next VA also will only bring the upgrades for armor, the weapon upgrade won't be realeased until 3.4 so if you aren't doing Savage the relic will infact be better by 3.3 in comparison to Lore.

As far as using our current primals and the like for the relic: I'm with you, and I think alot of players as well would rather have things like that instead of a grind. But SE saw numerous people complaining about how they couldn't get a relic because of one fight wrecking everyone (Remember the complaints about how much of a DPS race Gordias was? Titan HM was just as bad for most people, to the point they were dropping a tank for another DPS and still not meeting the check). Now if they get enough feedback maybe they'll try it again, maybe even at some point this relic. But I wouldn't hold my breath for the next few steps.

[Felis]

Again the new "Void ark" will bring out the weekly to upgrade Lore items which then will give players instant 240 items...

If they do it like the first Void Ark, then only for the gear and not the weapon. Weapon upgrade item would be in 3.4 in Void Ark 2