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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    You want it, but don't want to work for it? Got it.
    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Just don't make out it is ridiculously unobtainable, when enough people have theirs to prove otherwise
    At no point has anyone said either of these things.

    The point that the OP was making, which has been reiterated many times over the course of the thread, is that the reward does not correspond to the effort and/or time involved in obtaining it, given the alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibi View Post
    At no point has anyone said either of these things.

    The point that the OP was making, which has been reiterated many times over the course of the thread, is that the reward does not correspond to the effort and/or time involved in obtaining it, given the alternatives.
    Hmm

    ilevel 210 relic starting from 0 - around 1.5 month
    ilevel 230 relic starting from 0 - still around 1.5 month (2 weeks if you already have the ilevel 210 relic instead of waiting for a nerf)
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-01-2016 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Hmm

    ilevel 210 relic starting from 0 - around 1.5 month
    ilevel 230 relic starting from 0 - still around 1.5 month (2 weeks if you already have the ilevel 210 relic instead of waiting for a nerf)
    Hmm so the 230 stage being so easy justifies this? Doesn't make sense. Why is the 230 stage so easy it really does not make sense imo since it is easiest 230 weapon to get assuming all stages completed before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Hmm so the 230 stage being so easy justifies this? Doesn't make sense. Why is the 230 stage so easy it really does not make sense imo since it is easiest 230 weapon to get assuming all stages completed before...
    It does. Entirely.

    And then there are all of the other benefits on top of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Hmm so the 230 stage being so easy justifies this? Doesn't make sense. Why is the 230 stage so easy it really does not make sense imo since it is easiest 230 weapon to get assuming all stages completed before...
    Its easy because the Lore weapon is easy. Unless you are doing Savage all you have to do is wait 7 weeks and have atleast 1000 Lore which unless you are absolutely lazy OR only hit 60 last week you have 1000 Lore right now. Relic if you haven't gotten it up to 210 yet still requires the previous grind and unless one is near the end will probably take them longer then next reset.


    If you look at the ARR Relic a similar thing happened with Zenith. All you needed to do was buy three items (though I believe it required the capped currency instead of uncapped at the time) and boom instant i90 weapon. Not only was this MUCH easier then the first part (mostly because of no Titan HM), it ended up contributing to the raid weapons getting a +5 ilvl since i90 was the highest you could get to at the time.

    Look at the end of the ARR relic too. The second to last step was the hardest grind out of all of em because of the amount of items required, yet the next and final step was considered a very easy grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
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    You have to do Midas 4, which is harder then doing the Oils weekly...so again how does it justify? The 230 stage should be hard imo and the 210 stage easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    You have to do Midas 4, which is harder then doing the Oils weekly...so again how does it justify? The 230 stage should be hard imo and the 210 stage easier.
    - midas weapon is ilevel 245
    - next relic quest, that upgrade the relic to 240, will be mostly a 1.5 months grind again. The 210 step will not be nerfed before the 240 step is ingame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    - midas weapon is ilevel 245
    - next relic quest, that upgrade the relic to 240, will be mostly a 1.5 months grind again. The 210 step will not be nerfed before the 240 step is ingame.
    Problem there lies in the time it will take, because after those 1.5 month 3.4 will come out with the Lore upgrade and Savage will be nerfed like last time making those easier to obtain...SE never learns.
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