Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
Why do people keep throwing in this "700 runs of alex", except only to try and emphasise their point. Alex, imo was by far the slowest way of getting the items.

Kind've like saying "omg you have to do 18,000 archeoskin maps!"
No-one in their right mind grinded out the items in that way.

I got 4 relics from just doing roulettes and beast tribes. I did the vath and vanu to max rank, now just do the 12 arr ones each day, takes about half hour. 12 IV materia + 120exp for one of my levelling classes, can't complain

tl:dr stop complaining, do it if you want to, if you don't, don't. Just don't make out it is ridiculously unobtainable, when enough people have theirs to prove otherwise
Alex was by far the fastest way, calculated via simple math. It slows down impeccably if you wipe a lot - I guess, so there is a skill factor involved. That skill level was quite low though.

Personally, I found running Alex agonizingly boring - so I just farmed hunts. Unfortunately, this was probably the slowest method, but imo the most interesting.

Do you mean 4 210 relics?