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  1. #1391
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki View Post
    I think unless you use Swiftcast on Ruin III, it's best only aiming for one Fester in Dreadwyrm Trance. Even using 0 Festers in Dreadwyrm Trance is better than swapping in a Ruin II to fit 2 in.

    R2 (DWT), R2 (3D + F), R3 x4, R2 (F +DF) ... F = 2536
    R2 (DWT, 3D), R3 x5, R2 (DF) ... F ... F ... F = 2608
    R2 (DWT, 3D), R3 x5, R2 (F + DF) ... F ... F = 2638
    R2 (Swift + DWT), R3 (3D + F), R3 x4, R2 (F + DF) ... F = 2668
    Well, actually, squeezing in 6 is feasible with enough Spell Speed, so the ideal would probably be:
    R2 (Swift + DWT), R3 (3D + F), R3 x5, DF ... F ... F = 2770

    I'm not sure what "enough" Spell Speed is, though. At 856 I'm cutting it kinda close.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJnEu9vlQY
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  2. #1392
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki View Post
    Well, actually, squeezing in 6 is feasible with enough Spell Speed, so the ideal would probably be:
    R2 (Swift + DWT), R3 (3D + F), R3 x5, DF ... F ... F = 2770

    I'm not sure what "enough" Spell Speed is, though. At 856 I'm cutting it kinda close.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJnEu9vlQY
    My guess would be a comfort zone of 882 SPD for a 2.3 second GCD to allow for a 1 second loss of DWT activation.

    6 GCD in 14s requires a 2.33s GCD VS 15s being fine at 2.5GCD
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  3. #1393
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    Hmm, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to make a gear set which could hit that. Ariyala doesn't have Apple Streudel as an option yet, but that would push this set up to that Spell Speed threshold.
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TJKG

    I tried swapping to my crafted hat for BLM, putting me at 889 Spell Speed, 2.29 tooltip GCD. Hitting the Deathflare right as the 1 disappears from the icon, seems safe enough. Not enough time to squeeze in a second Fester, but I think like it better that way.
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  4. #1394
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    Aeryn Sol
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Hey guys, I recently leveled SMN to 60 and was wondering if the openers on the first page and/or the openers in Hai Hai's guide are still relevant to date? Thanks.
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  5. #1395
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    Orrah'to Leukka
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    Cactuar
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    Sleigh's 2F1P opener is largely the best opener to use in most situations so long as you can get Enkindle and Tridisaster within a Trick Attack window. However, there are situations like in A5 where you will want a Tri-Disaster opener to snapshot as much potency possible as early as possible or to hit a timing where you can do two DWT cycles ASAP. That said, I'm currently using something like http://ffxivrotations.com/4ez for those situations and Sleigh's for everything else. After looking over Shinryu's data, I'm starting to save Swiftcast for entering DWT with a Swift R3+Fester/Tridisaster as my biggest change to either rotation.
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    Last edited by Leukka; 03-30-2016 at 12:28 AM.

  6. #1396
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    Koyuki Tanaka
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    Hi

    After many tries, it appears that i'm unable to cast 6xGCD within 15 sec of DWT in a normal way.

    Despite the 15s for 2.41 sec GCD, the only way i found to perform 6xR3 + DF is to cast swift cast on the last R3, so i don't need 6x full GCD
    But if i remember i can't cast Fester AND DF since it's highly probable that i miss 1 DF T^T
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  7. #1397
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    LDR's Avatar
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    Kessler Larael
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I just wana check something im a bit ignorant on

    whats the minimum ACC i can get away with?

    i dont savage so i guess A8 is my benchmark [assuming ex dungs are equal or lower] and ive found literally 1 source that says 500acc so just want to confirm really.
    [because im missing miasmas out the wazoo and want to know the minimum of basic iv melds i need to do to save $$$]
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  8. #1398
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    Orrah'to Leukka
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    Cactuar
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    Shoot for 540 to 550 so you can be future-proofed for ex primals
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  9. #1399
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    Koyuki Tanaka
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    Hey,

    what is the best value of Spell Speed we can reach if we do a build :
    Crit and SS where crit is maxed with materia each time it's possible (and the rest with SS matéria)
    Crit and SS where SS is maxed with matéria each time it's possible (and the rest with Crit matéria)
    ?
    (using 230 lore and raid equipement)

    I'd like to check if there is a possibility to cast more that 6x ruin 3 during DWT.
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  10. #1400
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 80
    So to players that play both SMN and BLM endgame, do you just focus on gearing for one and hope the other one works out just fine? If so, which one do you focus on?
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