Afterthoughts:Level Capped Dungeons

[HoodRat]

I like everything about dungeons. I just don't like getting paired with terrible people who significantly slow down the time it takes to clear in df. I can understand the lower level dungeons if new players aren't doing that great, but I find it absolutely ridiculous when I consistently outdps dps classes who have better gear than me on my tank or healer. I once got a bard who had one 200 ring, and everything else was all 210, eso and relic. His dps was lower than what my tank could do...at level 50. >.>

[jmanfrw]

For me it depends on why I'm running the dungeon

If I'm running because I want to run a dungeon or got bored then I enjoy a slower pace

However most of the time I am running to get my tomes so I can do the things I would like, (Crafting/ gathering/ leveling the rest of my jobs)
in this case I want a speed run since I'm only running the dungeon to stay up to par for when I do want to play endgame content.

Just wish I could get tomes for my leveling roulette on non 60 characters so I could both get my tomes and work on leveling another job, at this point I'm wasting my roulette just to get my capped tomes for the week, so sad.

[hellmach]

Yoshi made it clear we won't see anything unique about dungeons. After the original Amdapor Keep and Pharos Sirius dungeons were a snooze fest. It's kinda shame really it's like anything that requires thought or mixes up the norm is shunned upon. What they should do is make all these instance dungeons actual open world areas at the same time and have unique themes to them, while also having the instance form working the way they are now.

I think that would be a pretty cool feature and would make the open world a bit more lively.

Then he's going to bleed out subs. This happens in every game that dumbs down it's content because people are not engaged. Right now everyone is still in love with the game but when they realize how empty the content really is, like getting out of a bad relationship, they'll just take their money elsewhere.

[KazumaFaemura]

Then he's going to bleed out subs. This happens in every game that dumbs down it's content because people are not engaged. Right now everyone is still in love with the game but when they realize how empty the content really is, like getting out of a bad relationship, they'll just take their money elsewhere.

I really hope he figures that out before it's too late.

[Morningstar1337]

I too feel my friend is the proper definition of elitist. But he thinks he is not. He states that grouping with a casual/solo player like me for the occassional roulette versus doing them with his FC/Raid group as a reason why he isn't Elitist.
Yet he turns around and tells me I don't play any real content.
Gold Saucer, Dungeons, Hardmodes, Beastmen, Hunts, don't count. Only "real endgame" such as Ex Primals & Raids do.

That has me wondering if the term has degraded into a mere buzzword by the playerbase?

[Uhm]

That strength in numbers thing is a nice idea, I've never heard something like that before. I dont think dungeons without trash would be good... I mean, that's what most raids are, where would be the difference then except in the number of people? I wonder if harder dungeons would work if they put a written explanation of the dungeons mechanics in the DF description, would people read it then and understand mechanics better (the ones who want to do it blind don't have to read it)?
I would like jumping puzzles, one person has to make it to the other side and activate a bridge for those who didn't make it, I would love to see that sh*itstorm of rage. Although I really actually like jumping stuff like GW2.