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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    The problems are the scenarios where the PLD is the "only person" who can be that one person because of its ehp.
    PLD is already the only one who can take any tankbuster without any assistance. The only one who could eat a chain of Akh Morn without someone to keep it alive...
    Again, when you're in a Duty, your goal is to win. A situation where you screw everything and still recover is hardly significant enough to dismiss an option. When you give PLD an ability so important that it becomes your main strat, then, yes, you could say that is brings balance issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    How bout other trials like the chrysalis? or dungeons with increasing damage damage buffs, etc?
    You mean the orb part ? Where healers can save everyone by Stonekin, Succor, Sacred Soil, etc ? So, do you suggest we remove Cover because a PLD could use it to prevent one healer fom dying and allowing him to cast the LB3 ?
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    How does a healer doing damage prevent a DPS from maintaining high DPS for a fight?
    So, you mean that you don't want PLD to be able to heal because it would steal you whole role ? Are you, again, reducing healers at spamming Cure so that you fear being oveshadowed by a PLD ?
    I don't even have a healer at lvl 60, yet I know exactly that they can offer more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    PLD is already the only one who can take any tankbuster without any assistance. The only one who could eat a chain of Akh Morn without someone to keep it alive...
    wait.... how is a PLD tanking damage... in any way related to brez balance or role bounds?

    You mean the orb part ? Where healers can save everyone by Stonekin, Succor, Sacred Soil, etc ? So, do you suggest we remove Cover because a PLD could use it to prevent one healer fom dying and allowing him to cast the LB3 ?
    Or tank LB. Of course none of these have anything to do with brez balance. Brez comes into play when you failed to take appropriate actions in the first place.

    So, you mean that you don't want PLD to be able to heal because it would steal you whole role ?
    Where did you get "whole role" from phrasing like:
    "unique respect for role boundaries."
    or
    "preserve the positives from the early implementations"
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    wait.... how is a PLD tanking damage... in any way related to brez balance or role bounds?
    It's related to "PLD is the "only person" who can be that one person because of its ehp"
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    Or tank LB. Of course none of these have anything to do with brez balance. Brez comes into play when you failed to take appropriate actions in the first place.
    But your issue is not with brez, it's about "one job being able to save a whole screwing party".
    I'm just pointing that there are already numerous ways for "one job being able to save a whole screwing party".
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    To put the shoe on the other foot:
    What if healers had a skill that dumped their aggro onto a tank, with say, idk, a 1-2 cooldown?
    What if a DPS had a skill that dumped its aggro onto a tank...oh, wait.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-09-2016 at 02:29 AM.