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  1. #1421
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    Transfinite's Avatar
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    Kaden Sun
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by trailmix9999 View Post
    World first A7S has a Mnk.
    Did they have a Machinist in their group as well?
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  2. #1422
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    Am I the only one who isn't okay with their choice of buffs for this patch? On my server, Monks are STILL being the less preferred melee DPS because of their lack of utility. I even saw a PF up today that only wanted a DRG/NIN/BRD or MCH/SMN or BLM. I don't think simply increasing their DPS was the way to go.
    Yeah. If you don't meet that utility-per-second check, the boss will wipe the raid.
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  3. #1423
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    Jay Wadey
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    Am I the only one who isn't okay with their choice of buffs for this patch? On my server, Monks are STILL being the less preferred melee DPS because of their lack of utility. I even saw a PF up today that only wanted a DRG/NIN/BRD or MCH/SMN or BLM. I don't think simply increasing their DPS was the way to go.
    I just find it amusing. I've already cleared Sephirot Ex multiple times and saw a "Clear" party on PF, so I was gonna go help 'em out and hopefully get a few more tokens. Until I saw they were excluding MNKs and BLMs from their group (NINs and SMNs only!).



    The playerbase confuses me sometimes.
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  4. #1424
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadey View Post
    I just find it amusing. I've already cleared Sephirot Ex multiple times and saw a "Clear" party on PF, so I was gonna go help 'em out and hopefully get a few more tokens. Until I saw they were excluding MNKs and BLMs from their group (NINs and SMNs only!).



    The playerbase confuses me sometimes.
    People usually exclude classes because they are going for that item. It would be stupid to exclude a monk for any other reason as Monk easily destroys in there. That fight was designed for Monk 100%. I usually end up at ~1.5k DPS (give or take) by the end of it because it the fight is so well tuned for Monks and I'm not even a great monk.

    Other classes that do pretty well in there include Smns, Mch, Drg, Nin. I think the fight was well tuned for a Skilled Mch too honestly.
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  5. #1425
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    2 MNK, MCH, SMN on SephEX is a 7m fight. The DPS is ludicrous.
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  6. #1426
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    Transfinite's Avatar
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    Kaden Sun
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    2 MNK, MCH, SMN on SephEX is a 7m fight. The DPS is ludicrous.
    So monks are good when you have two of them combined with the Machinist's physical vulnerability Hypercharge (10% for 20 sec)?
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  7. #1427
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Added monk's perspective on sephirot EX.
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  8. #1428
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Transfinite View Post
    So monks are better when you have two of them combined with the Machinist's physical vulnerability Hypercharge (10% for 20 sec)?
    And TP Promotion.
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  9. #1429
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    Yloise Roustebant
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 60
    How much should i do on dummy on 215 with relic?Im around 1570 Without food and potion.any help is appreciated thanks^^
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  10. #1430
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Quick and dirty, using a base gcd of 2.5s.

    And with your current sks:


    Turns out I didn't even need to account for skill speed, since it's always a gain to do that.

    It's an 18% increase in potency over that span either way. I of course assumed TwS and DK were both active for every hit since they should be. The biggest reason why this would be a dps loss is not because of this particular moment, but because of a later moment, when you lose greased lightning. If you - at any point - drop GL3 due to mechanics, and you burned your PB on this, you're stuck spending a far greater time ramping up than if you GL off the bat. (That is - 7 gcds at not-gl3 as opposed to 3)


    I also forgot Fists of Fire, but adding a buff to every hit on either side won't change the relationship.
    Saw this in another thread.

    This led me to ask if a better opener is :

    Form Shift X 3 > Snap > Perfect Balance > Snap > Demo > Tornado Kick > Snap > Snap > Snap ...

    What do you guys think? The one big thing I notice is that you will end up having Dragon Kick off at least 6 More skills than you would have had previously, not to mention oGCDs, which makes me think this isn't that great of an idea but I haven't done the hard numbers.
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