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    Bikkusu's Avatar
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    Jonra Greyhawk
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Sounds like you still have bad habits from the STR tanking meta. I know I'm still trying to break mine and adjust my low level rotation so that I won't have anymore problems.

    Please remember that pre-3.2 Vit tanks needed 4 uses of Flash/Overpower/Unleash to generate as much enmity as 3 uses by a Str tank.
    This doesn't make any sense at all.

    Pre-3.2 the damage output of tanks was higher, so holding enmity was much easier. Before 30 for warriors was all about holding on to enmity with just raw damage and your combo. Citing that a vit paladin had to use extra flash over a strength paladin doesn't make any sense at all because flash doesn't do damage, it generates the same amount of enmity either way.

    This reworking of the damage formula to include strength and vitality and then nerfing that total number to be less than the previous sum is affecting low levels a lot more than it is affecting the end level raids.
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    Saerin Zei
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bikkusu View Post
    Citing that a vit paladin had to use extra flash over a strength paladin doesn't make any sense at all because flash doesn't do damage, it generates the same amount of enmity either way.
    Except that the enmity from flash is increased based off of attack power since it generates based off potency. Throwing it out there.

    It's not relevant away because aggro isn't an issue providing you know what you're doing. Savage blade also generates the same amount as Sunder these days, can't even go there anymore.

    It's either an under geared tank or a rotational issue at this point. All tanks have the methods to hold threat just fine at any level.
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    Last edited by Asierid; 03-04-2016 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    Except that the enmity from flash is increased based off of attack power since it generates based off potency. Throwing it out there.

    It's not relevant away because aggro isn't an issue providing you know what you're doing. Savage blade also generates more enmity than Sunder does since the patch (3.7x vs 3.5x), can't even go there anymore.

    It's either an under geared tank or a rotational issue at this point. All tanks have the methods to hold threat just fine at any level.
    Except enmity from flash was a flat rate that wasn't based off attack power, which is why they increased the enmity rate later on. Just throwing that back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikkusu View Post
    Except enmity from flash was a flat rate that wasn't based off attack power, which is why they increased the enmity rate later on. Just throwing that back.
    Was, isn't. Missed that part, w/e. It would and still does blow unless it was pumped to 5x/6x like WAR/DRK AoE. So it really doesn't matter.

    Still doesn't change the fact low tanks have no issues post patch.
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