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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    And if you enjoy the game deeply and just want to communicate your suggestions to a receptive set of community reps while disproving false accusations and bad advice about fantasias? If everyone who had ever had a problem with a feature of the game simply left, the forum would be empty and the game would be struggling.

    To be honest, these threads would fall off the first page much more quickly if people didn't keep pouring fuel on them by accusing the guys who want access to the missing glamours of various strange opinions and suggesting they leave just because they're expressing their wishes on the official forum explicitly provided for fan discussion and feedback. If we didn't love the game, we wouldn't care in the first place.
    You know, you really should read the context of that quote along with who I'm replying to and what was being said, instead of attempting to warp it into something it's not to prove a point irrelevant to what's being stated. You people need to stop seeing posts that go against what you're trying to say as a reason to immediately shut your brain off. Otherwise, people who do think (at least) from time to time tend to notice it and point it out. The person I replied to was stating that SE owes us whatever it is we want of (see "entitled to" and "total control of") this game because we pay a subscription fee. I really shouldn't have to say it, but you do not control the game. You have rights to say things, but to feel entitled to control of is stupid and 100% incorrect, even on a personal level. They don't owe you anything at all because they deliver exactly what you pay for. To expect more than that is outside of the grounds of what they "owe" you. Mind you, it also doesn't mean they owe you a game you need to enjoy in every single possible way, you just get the product they chose to make, bottomline. I kind of clarify that in the following sentence after what you quoted of me, but again... that'd require the brain to not be immediately shut off the very moment they notice something does not agree with them, even if that's only within context.

    You people need to think about what it means to suggest and what it means to demand. Sugarcoating a demand by calling it a "suggestion" is no different than any IRL situation of the same. If you request vacation from a strict superior and he/she tells you "You can, but I suggest you come in that day", do you honestly think that's not an order or demand? An actual suggestion is one based on no truly ill feelings whether or not they actual do it. Of course, that's also subjective as well. I, for example, look at my own agreement on the matter as a suggestion. When I see you people do it though, it's more of a demand on the matter, simply because there's no reasoning with you and many others on the topic. Again, NO REASONING with you folks. That's a rather large flag for the dividing line between suggestions and demands. If they chose to do it this way under the impressions of creative freedoms, which is the default reason why something is done the way it is unless otherwise stated, who are you to really take that away from them? Regardless of any personal wants. You might think you aren't doing that, but the fact that it's a subject that you (generally speaking) can't accept and continue to press relentlessly, does eventually warp into an almost threatening position to creators.

    It's fine to ask for change. It truly is. But don't disguise it as a "suggestion" when it's something that obviously bothers you to no ends and affects your own enjoyment of the game greatly. Some of us take words literally and see through the veil. What you want is coming from a personal demand, but shared by many. These threads become very hostile because people are so passive aggressive about what they're really saying, just to appear like the underdog. Believe it or not, many of us are okay with the idea of males getting more access to feminine gear, even if many male character users may not use them. We just don't see petty reasons like number differences as something to be so upset or disappointed about it. Now, substantial differences like the Minfillia outfit, Thav set, or MGP stuff, sure... can definitely understand that and can be something people demand change for. But something practically of no meaning other than uneven numbers (like the gloves) to rage about is absolutely petty. People like the OP are a large reason why others get tired of this topic. You don't have to protest about every little thing if it truly is a "suggestion", as you claim it to be.

    Just to clarify, because I know it will be twisted to imply otherwise, my saying "you people" is referring to folks who do not understand the things they say or the arguments they're involving themselves with. This goes for people of any side.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 03-04-2016 at 05:18 AM.