For the 129392831203123801 time. STOP IT with the genderlocked gear.

[RyuRoots]

Now seriously, most if not all the new lv1 glamour gear is basically genderlocked. STOP IT ALREADY.

It is not most and again, SE owes you nothing for playing a male character. Get over yourself.

[Vexander]

It is not most and again, SE owes you nothing for playing a male character. Get over yourself.

Posts like this almost make me wish there was a down-vote option.

It has nothing to do with expectations of being, 'Owed,' something for choosing a gender option at Character Creation. If there are any expectations, it would be that the content of the game, regardless of how minor, is available equally between the choices SE gives players, such as gender, race, and tribe/clan. While we are discussing something relatively minor (aesthetic options such as gear), it is no less valid a concern to bring up, when there is an obvious and glaring disparity. Either gear should be entirely gender-neutral, or an equal number of sets made for male and female specifically, with equal detail and care made into the making of them.

[Andrea]

It is not most and again, SE owes you nothing for playing a male character. Get over yourself.

Would you prefer if they said that the majority of glamour SE release is either unisex or for female characters only?

[Eul]

It is not most and again, SE owes you nothing for playing a male character. Get over yourself.

Excuses and excuses. Owes? Then who the hell supports this game by paying the subs overtime?

Just... Just let the bunny ears unisex already.

It wouldn't be the first time a Final Fantasy game has introduced cross dressing.

See the Uraeus skirt that can be wear by all gender? Now it's called first cross dressing.

[Welsper59]

Excuses and excuses. Owes? Then who the hell supports this game by paying the subs overtime?

Just... Just let the bunny ears unisex already.

The people who enjoy the game. Absolutely nothing to do with this whole ordeal. If you, as a consumer, enjoy a product you need to pay for, you pay for it. If you don't, you don't have to support it. There can always be a lack of satisfaction about something within the confines of enjoying a product, but to think that just because you pay for the product or access to servers means they have to give up creative freedoms or listen 100% of the time to the consumers ideas is deluded. It's like being mad with power but having none and not realizing it. If they choose to do it, great. If not... oh well? I do agree though that the bunny ears thing is humorous to me (in a bad/peculiar way) with that, of all things, being female only. Like not even the gloves thing falls in line with that one, since it's a common business practice that there can be gloves tailored to be fit and worn specifically by women... as shocking as that is to some people lol.

[Bladesinger]

Welsper59 - Best post in this thread - Games not living up to your expectations: Bugger off to something that does get your jollies off. The self entitled mentality inside of this thread is sickening - Make your REQUEST and leave it alone, simple as that.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Welsper59 - Best post in this thread - Games not living up to your expectations: Bugger off to something that does get your jollies off. The self entitled mentality inside of this thread is sickening - Make your REQUEST and leave it alone, simple as that.

Take all my likes. Here. I insist. <3

[Serilda]

The people who enjoy the game. Absolutely nothing to do with this whole ordeal. If you, as a consumer, enjoy a product you need to pay for, you pay for it. If you don't, you don't have to support it.

And if you enjoy the game deeply and just want to communicate your suggestions to a receptive set of community reps while disproving false accusations and bad advice about fantasias? If everyone who had ever had a problem with a feature of the game simply left, the forum would be empty and the game would be struggling.

To be honest, these threads would fall off the first page much more quickly if people didn't keep pouring fuel on them by accusing the guys who want access to the missing glamours of various strange opinions and suggesting they leave just because they're expressing their wishes on the official forum explicitly provided for fan discussion and feedback. If we didn't love the game, we wouldn't care in the first place.

[Welsper59]

And if you enjoy the game deeply and just want to communicate your suggestions to a receptive set of community reps while disproving false accusations and bad advice about fantasias? If everyone who had ever had a problem with a feature of the game simply left, the forum would be empty and the game would be struggling.

To be honest, these threads would fall off the first page much more quickly if people didn't keep pouring fuel on them by accusing the guys who want access to the missing glamours of various strange opinions and suggesting they leave just because they're expressing their wishes on the official forum explicitly provided for fan discussion and feedback. If we didn't love the game, we wouldn't care in the first place.

You know, you really should read the context of that quote along with who I'm replying to and what was being said, instead of attempting to warp it into something it's not to prove a point irrelevant to what's being stated. You people need to stop seeing posts that go against what you're trying to say as a reason to immediately shut your brain off. Otherwise, people who do think (at least) from time to time tend to notice it and point it out. The person I replied to was stating that SE owes us whatever it is we want of (see "entitled to" and "total control of") this game because we pay a subscription fee. I really shouldn't have to say it, but you do not control the game. You have rights to say things, but to feel entitled to control of is stupid and 100% incorrect, even on a personal level. They don't owe you anything at all because they deliver exactly what you pay for. To expect more than that is outside of the grounds of what they "owe" you. Mind you, it also doesn't mean they owe you a game you need to enjoy in every single possible way, you just get the product they chose to make, bottomline. I kind of clarify that in the following sentence after what you quoted of me, but again... that'd require the brain to not be immediately shut off the very moment they notice something does not agree with them, even if that's only within context.

You people need to think about what it means to suggest and what it means to demand. Sugarcoating a demand by calling it a "suggestion" is no different than any IRL situation of the same. If you request vacation from a strict superior and he/she tells you "You can, but I suggest you come in that day", do you honestly think that's not an order or demand? An actual suggestion is one based on no truly ill feelings whether or not they actual do it. Of course, that's also subjective as well. I, for example, look at my own agreement on the matter as a suggestion. When I see you people do it though, it's more of a demand on the matter, simply because there's no reasoning with you and many others on the topic. Again, NO REASONING with you folks. That's a rather large flag for the dividing line between suggestions and demands. If they chose to do it this way under the impressions of creative freedoms, which is the default reason why something is done the way it is unless otherwise stated, who are you to really take that away from them? Regardless of any personal wants. You might think you aren't doing that, but the fact that it's a subject that you (generally speaking) can't accept and continue to press relentlessly, does eventually warp into an almost threatening position to creators.

It's fine to ask for change. It truly is. But don't disguise it as a "suggestion" when it's something that obviously bothers you to no ends and affects your own enjoyment of the game greatly. Some of us take words literally and see through the veil. What you want is coming from a personal demand, but shared by many. These threads become very hostile because people are so passive aggressive about what they're really saying, just to appear like the underdog. Believe it or not, many of us are okay with the idea of males getting more access to feminine gear, even if many male character users may not use them. We just don't see petty reasons like number differences as something to be so upset or disappointed about it. Now, substantial differences like the Minfillia outfit, Thav set, or MGP stuff, sure... can definitely understand that and can be something people demand change for. But something practically of no meaning other than uneven numbers (like the gloves) to rage about is absolutely petty. People like the OP are a large reason why others get tired of this topic. You don't have to protest about every little thing if it truly is a "suggestion", as you claim it to be.

Just to clarify, because I know it will be twisted to imply otherwise, my saying "you people" is referring to folks who do not understand the things they say or the arguments they're involving themselves with. This goes for people of any side.

[Niwashi]

We just don't see petty reasons like number differences as something to be so upset or disappointed about it. Now, substantial differences like the Minfillia outfit, Thav set, or MGP stuff, sure... can definitely understand that and can be something people demand change for. But something practically of no meaning other than uneven numbers (like the gloves) to rage about is absolutely petty.

Well, for the most part it's those sort of differences (Minfillia, Thav set, MGP stuff) that got people upset in the first place, so if you agree on those ones, then our positions aren't that far off. I haven't even seen the Expeditioner's Gloves except for their icon. It's become a discussion on each new female restricted item because they're just piling insult on top of injury. Instead of fixing the ones people really care about, SE is just adding yet more restrictions for the sake of adding restrictions. There's no valid reason for any of these restrictions and some of them impact what players can do, so I think SE should get rid of all of them and return the game to the equality they were lauded for when the game came out.


I'd like to glamour the bunny crown to my Ninja gear as an allusion to the Mysidian Rabbit, and if my character were female, I could do so. Why is that joke one that males aren't allowed to make? If you have a female character, you can dress her as a dancer using the Thavnarian set. Why can't we dress our male characters as dancers? (Those are the two cases where the gender imbalance affects me directly, because they're the two I would want to use myself and can't, at least not with the characters I'd want them on.)

What gets most of us upset is issues like those, where the whole idea behind a glamour is blocked simply because of these gender locks. Fantasia is no solution because the whole point of glamour would be wrecked if we didn't like what our character looked like in the first place. (I actually have both male and female alts, but my favorites are male because they look better.)

I don't have a particular glamour in mind where the expeditioner's gloves would be an essential part of it, but if someone did, then the same would apply. They shouldn't be blocked from it based just on which gender they like. It's all the same issue. If SE is going to go to the trouble of creating a new piece of gear and putting it into the game, then they should allow all their players the same access to it regardless of which gender they play. The argument isn't really about the numbers. The numbers come into it because that points out just how often the problem is being compounded. Each of those numbers represents something that half the playerbase can do but the other half cannot.