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    As I say in every one of these topics, I want to see more gender-locked gear. I like seeing people wearing a variety of things, so stopping people from wearing the current most fashionable item is a great step towards that. It adds variety, and gives an observer like myself more to view.

    Instead of complaining about gender locked gear, you should be asking for equal amounts of gear for both genders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Instead of complaining about gender locked gear, you should be asking for equal amounts of gear for both genders.
    ....Which many of us already are. I know I have, and I also know I'm not the only one. Yes, for most people (agreeing with these types of threads, that is) the wish to have more unisex options is the primary request, with the 'at least make things even' being a... well... grudging compromise. I also feel pretty confident that there wouldn't be nearly as many people raising this issue if there had been equal amounts of male-only and female-only from the start.

    For me, the 'even out the genderlock imbalance' is the primary concern. It's, IMO, the least they should be working towards, and preferrably also make at least an attempt at correcting the already existing imbalance. If more 'female-only' outfits end up unisex as a result, it'll be an unexpected but welcome bonus to me.

    Heck, to make things easier on themselves and the whole storage issue, they could even use the same system they've done on some of the existing gear: Have it be the same item, but let it look different depending on whether it's a male or female character wearing it. So, for example, make the spring dress unisex, but if a guy wears it, it looks like a casual frock coat instead. Not the ideal example, due to the very specific name on the item, but... I hope I made clear what I meant anyway ^^;
    I've used a few Fantasia the past year and a half, and have a couple of female-only gear pieces sitting on a retainer (nothing really 'expensive' though), just in case I decide to switch back at some point. Or in case I want to use them on a retainer. This, and fixing glamours post-Fantasia, would be a lot easier/better if they were different-appearance unisex items. ^^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Even if there was an equal amount of gear from the start, it still wouldn't stop the demand for players to wear the opposite sex's clothes. The solution isn't, and never will be to have an equal number of gender lock clothing for these individuals. Not while there's always a demand for a male counter part to things such as the Bunny Ears and Thavnairian Bustier. The only solution to make these individuals happy is for all future gear to forever be unisex, as it really makes no sense to have the same item twice with a gender lock label on it.
    ...I find it amusing that the two examples you give are among those who do not have a male-only equivalent. If there was a male-only variety, not necessarily with bunny ears, and if there was a male-only variety of the bustier (for example if the vest-and-pants combo had been male-only instead of unisex), there would have been a far smaller group complaining about it. Would there be people wanting the other gender's options? Yes. I never said there wouldn't be. But if the "I want all of them" people don't get support from the "I want equal options" people, you definitely wouldn't see as much of this. Even those who primarily want all-unisex and accept equal number of sets as a compromise would most likely not support those threads. At most, they'd be expressing sentiments such as, "Yes, that would be really nice, but on the other hand, we have [male-only set] instead, so... fair enough."
    I mean, there are people wishing they could equip Lightning's gear on guys and Snow's gear on gals, but there's never really been any huge outcry over that (apart from the 'please bring the event/gear back' threads, of course, but they should stop popping up now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    ....Which many of us already are. I know I have, and I also know I'm not the only one. Yes, for most people (agreeing with these types of threads, that is) the wish to have more unisex options is the primary request, with the 'at least make things even' being a... well... grudging compromise. I also feel pretty confident that there wouldn't be nearly as many people raising this issue if there had been equal amounts of male-only and female-only from the start.

    For me, the 'even out the genderlock imbalance' is the primary concern. It's, IMO, the least they should be working towards, and preferrably also make at least an attempt at correcting the already existing imbalance. If more 'female-only' outfits end up unisex as a result, it'll be an unexpected but welcome bonus to me.

    Heck, to make things easier on themselves and the whole storage issue, they could even use the same system they've done on some of the existing gear: Have it be the same item, but let it look different depending on whether it's a male or female character wearing it. So, for example, make the spring dress unisex, but if a guy wears it, it looks like a casual frock coat instead. Not the ideal example, due to the very specific name on the item, but... I hope I made clear what I meant anyway ^^;
    I've used a few Fantasia the past year and a half, and have a couple of female-only gear pieces sitting on a retainer (nothing really 'expensive' though), just in case I decide to switch back at some point. Or in case I want to use them on a retainer. This, and fixing glamours post-Fantasia, would be a lot easier/better if they were different-appearance unisex items. ^^;
    Even if there was an equal amount of gear from the start, it still wouldn't stop the demand for players to wear the opposite sex's clothes. The solution isn't, and never will be to have an equal number of gender lock clothing for these individuals. Not while there's always a demand for a male counter part to things such as the Bunny Ears and Thavnairian Bustier. The only solution to make these individuals happy is for all future gear to forever be unisex, as it really makes no sense to have the same item twice with a gender lock label on it.
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 02-27-2016 at 12:29 PM.