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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    Obvious troll?
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    Why do people jump to call others trolls because the have a different opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    Why do people jump to call others trolls because the have a different opinion?
    Its not a matter of opinion dude.

    I just posted a few words to say "hey im happy because i will soon recover the figure i had before!"

    There s nothing about opinions and nothing to analyse here.

    You re waaaaaaay too much complicated with opinions and stuff really.

    Why the hell would you start an argument about something completely useless like that?

    The forums....

    Edit : i should have post a disclaimer saying:

    "my post is only about being happy to see my stat being recovered to its previous state at least even if everything else has changed. I of course perfectly know that the balance between tanks and dps and so on has changed but im at least glad that my AP will be recovered especially for solo dungeons etc i enjoy doing a lot"
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    Last edited by Ultear_Milkovich; 03-03-2016 at 06:02 PM. Reason: In this forum you need to be extremely careful to what you say


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    Its not a matter of opinion dude.

    I just posted a few words to say "hey im happy because i will soon recover the figure i had before!"

    There s nothing about opinions and nothing to analyse here.
    Think he meant, you called a person a troll simply because they gave you numerical facts of your, admittedly, loosely defined observation. While they might not have perceived your comment the way you meant it, calling them a troll on the instant is.. let's say, childish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    Think he meant, you called a person a troll simply because they gave you numerical facts of your, admittedly, loosely defined observation. While they might not have perceived your comment the way you meant it, calling them a troll on the instant is.. let's say, childish.
    Because this is not actual trolling: jumping on anything to make useless discussions.

    I still know what i wanted to mean by closing the gap between the previous value and the new one. But of course people who are not in my head knows it better because = forums.
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    Then maybe let it stay in your head if you dont express it properly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baci View Post
    Then maybe let it stay in your head if you dont express it properly
    Whats is wrong with what i said? I know that english is not my mother tongue but im curious.

    Seriously this is really not cool

    I just said that the stat which dropped from 1045 to 844 is slightly going up again , and that im happy with that.

    What s wrong with that guys?
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    What the hell are y'all even talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    I m not talking about the gap between me and actual dps. This one will never be closed since everybody is gearing up.

    Im talking about the gap between my previous AP (1045) and the post patch one. This gap has been reduced from 1045/844 to 1045/908. What matters to me is to get my previous dps back 1st for reasons.

    So yes sorry but it does make sense.
    It's relative, though. So, say your previous DPS was 1k, now it's 800. Previously, DPS were doing 1.4k, now they're still doing 1.4k. So, currently, there would be a 600 DPS difference. Let's say, now, you go back to 1k through gear - but this also means that the DPS will gain DPS through gear, say 1.6k. So 600, again.

    The reason this is important is that while you are gaining back DPS, the DPS are exceeding their previous best. This means that enmity will be roughly the same, which is what this topic is about. The DPS increase through gear will be good, don't get me wrong, it'll be nice to see our previous numbers again... but it's the same as it was from 2.0 to now, you gain AP through gear and... stuff. I think the problem with your post is that you included "this should be just bad memories soon", which would imply the fundamental problem that people are having would go away (lack of enmity relative to the DPS).

    I personally haven't had any problems. The only time I have is on my alt DRK when I had a Seph weapon, fully pentamelded 220 DRG and I only had my i210 weapon sitting at around i185. I only used one Power Slash and tanked out of Grit for a large portion, if I had done 2 PS combos it would've been cake. He also decided to single target when I pulled multiple packs... which was weird... but that aside, I haven't really had any issues with threat even massively under-geared. It is less than it was before, but it just doesn't feel too bad. As long as I'm above the DPS while the boss is still alive then I'm fine with where we are.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 03-03-2016 at 11:24 PM. Reason: words

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    Im not talking about others dps... i just talk about a personnal point of view...

    I m aware about everything about the difference and such.

    Its just that it took me months to reach a 1000ish value and it decreased a lot within one day. But im happy that i will get it back soon.

    Once again you re trying to find something else where there s nothing. Is there really no way to understand me? I mean my english is that bad?

    I know that everybody is gearing up of course...

    Well nvm im just leaving the forums
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    Sorta confused what that has to do with the topic at hand though, friend. :V
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