3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

[Februs]

Yeah, it's false info. You come in here spouting the basics of pvp like dragoon can use icarus wings and gap closers, like it's some sort of startling revaltion, then go on to claim something as asinine as TP management is never an issue.

I'm starting to wonder if you are actually reading the comments or just picking out the things you don't like, because it's pretty clear that you've completely blown by the point.

Yes, I did say that TP management is "never a problem." I suppose that was a bit of a "blanket statement," or, it would be if I was referring to all of the PvP'ers in the game. I'm pretty sure I singled out seasoned Wolves Den players, specifically, who have been managing their TP without much issue since the beginning of the game mode, but fine. If we are going to apply my statement to every single PvP'er in the game, regardless of experience or skill, then yes, this is a false statement ... which was completely not the point of my post at all, so I'm not sure why you're so focused on it.

The point, again and hopefully for the last time, is that PvP'ers have always, since the dawn of Wolves Den, have had MULTIPLE ways to replenish and adequately manage their TP. How is this in any way false information? Seems pretty straight forward to me, so I'm honestly confused how you can even contest it.

for me it's a minimal issue most of the time as I'm very used to altering my playstyle based on TP, but generally, the more TP the better.

The fact that you can argue against having adequate resources to manage your TP, but bust out a statement like this is mind blowing. It would seem that you, yourself, don't have any problems managing your TP. Now, to avoid confusion, I'm not saying that TP is not an issue that needs be "managed and planned around," but can you honestly tell me, with a straight face, that it's a "problem" after openly admitting that it's a "minimal issue" for you? How often do you honestly use sprint? When you do, how often do you say, "well, shit. Now I have no Tp left to attack," and completely ignore your Tp regen skills and items? In short, how often is TP management actually a "problem" for you?

To be perfectly clear, I never said that TP management was not important. I never implied that a player should ignore their TP management (in fact, I implied the opposite by mentioning customizing hot bars to include Tp replenishment skills and items). I also never said that it wasn't an important issue in the current Wolves Den for melee players. I simply stated that the tools for managing TP are there to be used, and it is no one's fault but the players if they chose to ignore them. I may have over-simplified my statements on TP management, but I did not think I would have to fully explore when and how a player should be managing their TP. The point, is that they can if they are willing to put the effort in.

Last thing we need in den is dragoons who think they have infinite TP and that their job is to merely get in range of casters to gapclose so that they can stunlock....

This was also a bit of a misunderstanding, but I can take the blame for it because I was not clear. I used to play a lot of PvP as Pld. When I used Sprint, it was typically only using it to stay on top of a target who was sub 70% Hp so that I could apply Full Swing and Stun lock via shield bash, thereby allowing the Dps to zerg it into oblivion. I did not mean to imply that Drg's should also be stun locking. The only reason I singled out Spineshatter dive was because it essentially halts a target's sprint in it's tracks, reducing the effective time of the sprint status, and provides the Drg adequate time to replenish a bit of Tp before continuing to attack (assuming, of course, that the target is worth blowing the stun on). I wrongly assumed you would somehow be following my train of thought without actually explaining it.

[Februs]

More off-topic stuff

You are truly unbelievable lol. What you're basically telling me is that I wasn't clear enough in my language, despite the fact that you are taking several quotes out of context, and that somehow offended you ... Yeah, I can live with that. I could try to sort that mess out, but given your penchant for taking things way out of context and twisting the meaning, I don't want to exhaust myself by formatting a point form list full of tiny details explaining every single misunderstanding you have conjured up. What I will leave with you, though, is this:

• Problem: noun 1. A doubtful or difficult matter requiring a solution.
• Issue: noun 3. A point in a question; an important subject of debate or litigation.

Taken straight out of the Concise Oxford English Dictionary, in case you were wondering. I figured that, since you are so keenly interested in precision of language, you should be aware of the fact that there is a difference between a "problem" and an "issue." An issue can be a problem, of course, but not every issue is a problem. It's one of those wonderful words with nuanced meanings. If I can take one thing out of this off-topic conversation, it's that being as clear and concise as possible is much more important than I initially realized, because you never know what someone will read between the lines. I guess I can thank you for making me more aware just how far a couple of out of context or exaggerated words can take a conversation. I'll be more careful to avoid such things in the future.

After that, I'd say this is all wrapped up. Considering that you have blown the whole thing way out of proportion by fixating on one comment about Drg TP (which was really only an example that I used because it was your main) instead of actually focusing on the main point, this is as far as I'm willing to go. If you have problems with TP (and yes, I do mean "problems"), then they are your problems to address. You should be happy with the changes being made. If not, then I guess it won't make a difference to you one way or the other.

[Kurogaea]

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Dude, just don't bother. We got what you meant I'm sure. I just think someone is reading too deeply into your words to "understand" what your trying to say. I say that in quotes because I doubt they really care by the attitude of their words.

[P4X0R10N]

[/QUOTE]I've really grown tired of you ceasely adding on to what you have said, to try and explain what you actually meant rather than what you've said. Get it right the first time and there won't be any problem/issue (see what I did there?)
This has been a complete waste of my time, so I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore you from here on out, nothing else to say. Besides, since you've modified what you have said about TP never being an issue on drg, and aren't spreading that around, I don't have a problem here anymore.[/QUOTE]

And what if he was spreading around a falsehood about TP never being an issue for dragoons? Calm ur panties mate. Your reaction was way out of proportion.