Thread: 3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

Originally Posted by Delmontyb

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Swtor had a really cool system in place for tanks in pvp. Taunts decreased the damage dealt by the target taunted for all players except for the tank taunting. It showed on the scoreboard how much damage the tanks prevented. You also had a '' guard '' ability which transferred 50% of dmg taken to the tank.
Playing a tank in Swtor was actually a ton of fun. And it really mattered. A good tank leaping around interrupting, harassing and guarding his/her team m8s could easily win you the match. A dps specced '' tank class '' could still do it, but not as well as a tank specced one.

I know everyone seems to think Astros are op right now but every plat team I played in team ranked yesterday all ran a whm yet I still see a lot of hate towards whm for no reason. It really seems to me that smn and ast are pretty in-line and that only the lowest skilled players still think they are op. I think the most op class right now is pld though. They just bring way too much to the table compared to war or drk.

Originally Posted by Februs

I am, however, having a slight problem with Pld. It's not it's utility or how it plays. It plays AMAZING in Feast. The problem is the general attitude I've seen towards Pld by the vast majority of people I've played with. I get shafted with the blame for almost every match that goes south. Right off the bat you get people saying crap like, "why didn't you use Testudo?? / Where's my Cover!? / Why aren't you stun locking that Healer!? Tank's on my ass, why aren't you saving me!?" etc.

I just played a match in which the Healer was begging me to save them from the tank the entire time, but the Dps was furious that I wasn't constantly on the healer. Newsflash: I CANNOT BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE! For the love of god, this is not rocket science. Secondly, people really have no concept of how Pld actually works. I CANNOT INFINITELY STUN LOCK A TARGET. Yes, shield bash is a GCD attack, but after 3, that's it. I have to wait a minute at the very least to stun the target again. Yet everyone somehow expects me to stun lock forever or that I'll be able to magically interrupt every healer cast with my regular attacks. I wish I could, but it doesn't work that way.

The last thing (and I realize I'm ranting here), is that my oGCD's have a long damn timer. Cover takes 120 seconds to recast. No matter how much people bitch about it, I CANNOT COVER EVERYONE ANY TIME I WANT. Testudo is even worse at 150 seconds. Further, Cover only covers a single target. Status effects are transferred to me (including stuns). It does not protect against magic dmg, and it HAS A LIMITED RANGE. I bring that up because I had someone complain that I didn't use cover on them, when, in fact, I did but they ran WAY out of my range instead of staying close to me.

I could go on and on about the unrealistic demands that people have been begging for in these random PuG matches, because I have seen some truly asinine requests in just these first two days, but the bottom line is that, no matter how good of a Pld I or anyone else is, we cannot protect the entire team from their own ineptitude. There is a limit to our abilities and it's ridiculous to think that we can somehow carry the everyone.

I adore playing PLD in Frontlines, even in spite of the terrible encounters with players who are amazing in their own way, but honestly this is the exact reason I am afraid to try him in the Feast. I have no experience with WD and I'm not even used to popping very many self defensive cooldowns outside of being chased by an entire party or during Cover phases and I worry it'll take me at least a few games to get into the flow of things all while having little to no patience from any of my fellows.

Guess I'll stick to my Bard for another while longer.

Originally Posted by Februs

I am, however, having a slight problem with Pld. It's not it's utility or how it plays. It plays AMAZING in Feast. The problem is the general attitude I've seen towards Pld by the vast majority of people I've played with.

That's a real shame, I've had my ass saved quite a few times with a clutch clemency and the like. Most pld's I've had in my groups have been pretty good as far as teamwork goes.

Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard

That's a real shame, I've had my ass saved quite a few times with a clutch clemency and the like. Most pld's I've had in my groups have been pretty good as far as teamwork goes.

It is a shame. Don't get me wrong, though. Pld is still one of the most rewarding jobs to play in Feast. It is immensely satisfying to save a teammate with a well timed Clem, bolster their defenses with DV/Testudo, or facilitate an early kill with a GB>Full Swing > stun combo. I've had some exceptionally good matches as a Pld, and it's been a total blast to play. I definitely don't plan on dropping it anytime soon. It's just a little frustrating when people automatically allot blame to the Pld simply because they are assuming their utility stretches further than it actually does.

Pld is a crutch in this game mode, it's true, but it's only one crutch. There's a limit to how many people can lean on it at once.