Paladin adjustments = PALLY BUFFS!

[Aaliyahrose]

WAR:

The typical raid WAR (especially in Alexander Savage) would usually be the OT to dish out dps almost equivilant to a DRG or MNK with they slaying gear they love so much. With the new changes in VIT, this could not only balance WAR strength, but also encourage our OT heros to switch to a main tank perspective.

DRK:

DRKs in my opinion excel more as a MT than OT in my opinion due to their mana management. However, they can still do amazing dps with full slaying gear. This change in VIT coming to DRKs may neither be too overpowered nor too gimped, as DRK was first meant to be the go-between of the 3 tank classes. Speculation for me is unknown.

[Aaliyahrose]

Being 60 PLD/DRK/WAR;

Seeing that they specifically mentioned Paladin's Oath - I hope this means they finally recognize that the loss of GCD & combo interruption was significantly detrimental to overall damage capabilities.

Additionally; Paladin has a single offensive cooldown & it is fairly powerful but the long cooldown has always made the job about limiting your losses over time - hopefully changes to Sword Oath will help address this.

Hopefully they fix or at least somewhat address the deficiencies with those skills.

Agreed! Our Ability Fight or Flight is called Fight or Flight for a reason. I think of it as would you rather stay in Flight mode in Shield Oath to keep up your enmity? Or would you rather switch to Sword Oath to Fight mode to dish out as much dps as possible to meet that dps check...the Paladin Oaths could have a shorter GCD in my opinion.

[Maltothoris]

It will be interesting to see what changes are being made to the paladin.

I do wonder what made Yoshi-P changed his mind considering some of the other stuff that was said about the pld like this statement from months ago from an old topic

Apparently Yoshi P finally commented on his stance on plds:

Source is here (mind you its japanese):

http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/46326984.html

Translation by courtesy of Octopus over at BG:

YoshiP: "I don't think PLD is weak"
- PLD will continue to be the best defensive tank.
- There will be adjustments to its skills in 3.1
- Magic will never be able to be blocked
- There will be more physical attacks in raids

and another from here

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...y_released_jp/

It is interesting to think about.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I do wonder what made Yoshi-P changed his mind considering some of the other stuff that was said about the pld like this statement from months ago from an old topic

It is very easy for them to miss how a job actually performs in the hands of players when they "know" how a job should perform. Developer Blindness common infliction in a large number of MMOs. The FFXIV team is actually fairly quick to fix things once they learn what is actually going on.

[NovaLevossida]

It is very easy for them to miss how a job actually performs in the hands of players when they "know" how a job should perform. Developer Blindness common infliction in a large number of MMOs. The FFXIV team is actually fairly quick to fix things once they learn what is actually going on.

Honestly, I feel that we shouldn't be seeing a repeat of this "there is no problem" stuff again. This is the exact same situation with WAR back at 2.0 launch, just it's PLD now. We're basically seeing YoshiP go through the stages of grief again, moving from denial where we always start at to the current point of acceptance.

I'm also surprised it's taken this long to change astral fire / umbral ice on black mages to change status on end of cast instead of when the animation hit (because having to wait after your cast is complete with your thumbs twiddling for Blizzard 4 to be enabled to be cast is junk). I just wouldn't expect things like the black mage situation to make it out of testing, and I'd expect them to move faster on the repeat scenario of messing up tank balance.

[Lyth]

Don't forget that it took the community itself a few months to formulate the present views on PLD post-HW. If you look back to the first couple of months of posts, PLD was clearly meant to be the best MT, Sheltron was supposedly the second-coming of Inner Beast, and there was a 30+ page thread on how DRK obviously wasn't good enough to bring into Ex Primals. It took two world-first clears on something other than a PLD MT to turn that all on its head. That's also when we suddenly decided that the existing two-year-old tank 'meta' was actually an issue.

You can design and balance classes on paper all you want, but you can't design for how people will come to play or perceive them.

[Reynhart]

Don't forget that it took the community itself a few months to formulate the present views on PLD post-HW. If you look back to the first couple of months of posts, PLD was clearly meant to be the best MT, Sheltron was supposedly the second-coming of Inner Beast, and there was a 30+ page thread on how DRK obviously wasn't good enough to bring into Ex Primals.

What it took is just simple new designs :
"You know all these all powerful physical attacks ? Well, they're dead. Now, it's magic time ! And hard DPS checks"

[Riki_Namu]

Also a quote from the Community Rep:


HAHAHA I've had many raid groups laugh at me for using all fending accessories on PLD. Everyone will finally leave me alone and finally see how I've always been a better PLD with high HP ^.^
This makes me ecstatic.

Thats not true you weren't always the better PLD, the extra hp wasn't needed the damage was for the dps checks. In 3.2 however you will be good to go but up till now you have been a burden dps wise in raid.

[Torunya]

In 3.2 however you will be good to go but up till now you have been a burden dps wise in raid.

Because of the aforementioned intended design. It's not like players who signed up to be Paladins thought they'd be doing any less damage than their tank cousins Drk and War, but because of the heavy emphasis on high dps-checks it turned out that way. I think after the 3.2 patch a lot of Paladin players will let out a sigh of relief, because they've been pulling the tougher weights throughout the "era of strength tanks" that we're now putting behind us.

Raise your chins and puff out your chests fellow Paladins, because brighter times lie ahead!

[Kabooa]

Because of the aforementioned intended design. It's not like players who signed up to be Paladins thought they'd be doing any less damage than their tank cousins Drk and War, but because of the heavy emphasis on high dps-checks it turned out that way. I think after the 3.2 patch a lot of Paladin players will let out a sigh of relief, because they've been pulling the tougher weights throughout the "era of strength tanks" that we're now putting behind us.

Raise your chins and puff out your chests fellow Paladins, because brighter times lie ahead!

"Paladins are now a healing class."
-Totes Real Quote.