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    Malicewolf's Avatar
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    Fohl Hakuko
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    I'm not playing this game with you sweetie. What you fail to understand leads to the constant fallacies and preconceived notions you keep assuming. I don't need to spoon feed you when to stop, moderate, other obvious details, or silly things like optimizing your job when you can't make it function at a basic level. When you can't it work, then its not the time to optimize. If you want to be on top of a parser then stop, this is not the topic to be advocating your silly savage top PLD DPS junk. And don't lie to me about it's not about parsers, you're the one here pushing for avoiding flash solely for it doing no damage and delaying the time it takes to strike only ONE thing with RoH which already takes 5 seconds to get to, and the DR on its secondary effect doesn't change that. It does nobody good when you have no control. And yes the whole fake junk is the meta. All they care about is damage to meet parsers on an overtuned savage that has nothing to do with leveling or the vast majority of the game. If you want to deal damage 24/7 to a group of enemies, then play as warrior or dark knight. It's absurd that someone would be so bent on doing damage races as a PLD when it is in fact the very thing paladin most of all do not excel at and then to push it on others when they can't make the threat work. If you wanna force players to conform to you're refusal to direct and/or AoE threat, then have fun dragging the party down with your negligence.

    So more real talk. You either cause threat to them all fast or DPS and/or healers will simply takes control no matter what they do. It's as simple as that. If you can't do that then you got almost no business blaming DPS or healers for anything you refuse to do. Again some of us will always AoE, in fact I'm pretty sure all of us except BLMs have AoEs to use in our normal routine vs anything so neglecting to apply threat on all enemies at the same time is especially bad. You do know that right? Switching targets constantly is bad on DPS because some need their DoTs on the current target for their moves to function, resistance debuffs don't affect any other than the one they were applied to, having to move more for positionals, and you'll be further away from using your execute type moves. Naturally this excludes the times you must switch for target of priority such as bees, totem poles, or boss adds that must die. But course I have to say it for you in- however vain- hopes that get the message, which you won't.

    Can't wait to see what part of this you fail to read again.

    Also don't confuse party responsibilities with individual responsibilities.
    Wow, I've never seen more incorrect statements about PLD in my life... But not surprised it's coming from a WAR. As someone who mains a PLD, Februs is 100% totally right. And you Riis, are almost 100% incorrect. To spam flash between EVERY attack is simply bad tanking. It's not simply about maximizing damage or making parsing numbers. You are simply wasting time and mitigation. Even in large mobs, I do not use even half the amount of flashes you would. Do you also simply spam Overpower until you're out of TP then blame the DPS for not killing the mob fast enough? Because that is essentially the equivalent argument for WAR tanking based on how you think a PLD should tank.

    As Februs stated, blind is resisted after 3 flashes. If you are pulling a huge mob like you are talking about, a CoS with FoF and a flash or 2 would hold aggro. After that, you should be rotating your enmity combo to gain a LEAD on hate on the mob targets as needed. After that, it's about effective management. Throwing out another flash if your DPS are big AoE hitters. I mean, jeez, while you're at it, why don't you just stop attacking all together and flash all day long. Maybe throw in a riot blade for some MP since you're wasting it so much.

    Normally I wouldn't be so salty, but everything said just made me shiver. We're talking about competent PLD tanking. Not incompetent tanking that "could pass". That's the kind of stuff you see in sastasha man. Not end game.
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    Last edited by Malicewolf; 02-02-2016 at 12:09 AM.
    Don't worry. I'll spam cure the crap out of you with my Paladin.

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