Don't be "that DPS"

[ChloeGrace]

Why do they do this?

DPS halp tank!

[Jim_Berry]

I can sympathize with this, even if just from more of any annoyance stand point. Dps can go AoE crazy or focus down targets all they want when I'm stopped and running my own rotation, but it's a different story if I haven't finished the pull yet.

It can happen when a tank is approaching a pull with 2 or more sets. 9 times out of 10, this usually goes just fine, because most Dps are considerate enough to wait for the Tank to actually complete their pull before they start the heavy metal music. Unfortunately, sometimes you run into this one Dps who insists on going balls to the walls on the first target you touched before everything is in position. Instead of a nice, clean, efficient, and fast pull, you end up with the tank running to the next set, the mob chasing the tank, and "that dps" chasing the mob while they desperately try to upkeep their dps (which they typically fail at). If they pull hate, then the Tank has to turn the whole train around just to go backwards to save the squishy idiot who couldn't wait 2 seconds for you to settle everything into a nice orderly pile.

The absolute worst cases of this are when the Dps in question stuns the mob you touched. You end up getting to the end of the pull, got everyone nice and lined up, and you're about to pop CoS .... and then you see that one mob way back in the distance who's still trying to catch up with the group cuz someone stunned him.

Why do they do this? I dunno. It doesn't increase dps (it actually lowers it since it's unlikely they'll score positoinals or AoE's on a moving set of mobs), it doesn't work for the other dps (since mobs that are out of place get missed for AoE's), it hurt's the healers Mp pool (since a longer, less efficient, pull = more healing required), and reduces Tank enmity and mitigation (for the same reason that the healer's mp pool suffers).

Thankfully, this is a rare flower in the garden of Dps players. I get players who apply DoT's and get the odd hit off on in-progress pulls all the time, but that special snowflake who thinks that it's a good idea to go throttle to the max before the tank has stopped moving is not as common. It's just a little irritating when you see that kind of short-sighted behavior, and not just to the tank (I've seen a smn bitch at a Mnk who did this, because their AoE's were consistently missing the targets he was pulling out of the group).

I'll admit that I'm that NIN who will smack a pulled mob with Mutilate, but that's it. Afterwards, I hold all other attacks until I see the tank stop and/or plant his AoE (Scorn, Abyssal Drain, Steel Cyclone, etc).

[Malicewolf]

Guess they have changed it then, we tested that for some progression in 2.1 I think it was and our pld was blocking while back turned to the boss

Yea, it's definitely only the front. My sheltron fails even if they are slightly on my flank (super annoying).

Snippers

I feel your pain there. Sometimes I pull back to grab it, but doing so usually results in a severe dip to my hp as I run through the middle of the mobs I just pulled, getting pummeled to the face while I'm at it. I'll usually attempt a provoke and shield lob first (as you said, quite costly in the TP). But if I see the other DPS run to help the puller, i will usually just let them burn it and hold the mob until they're ready (which better be soon...). The good news, I have more time to establish a good aggro lead xD (and somehow, they always find that one I didn't hit that much... damn murphy's law!).

[Almalexia]

If you see voke+Unmend/Tomahawk/Shield Lob, STOP HITTING THAT SAME MOB, and if you're going to insist on fucking up the pull like that, at least run it over to the tank's melee range. I'm not going to OOM spamming Unmend to try and rip that thing off you only to have you make snarky comments about me "not doing my job".

Let em have it.

It's not like they're going to start AoEing. No amount of Provoke is going to save them from themselves.

[AskaRay]

Let em have it.

It's not like they're going to start AoEing. No amount of Provoke is going to save them from themselves.

I don't know
There are times when the tank stops, and so I shoot but then suddenly they're possessed to keep running.... so I run the mob over to them when they finally stop FOR REAL. I certainly am not attacking that stray mob since I don't want it.

[Almalexia]

I don't know
There are times when the tank stops, and so I shoot but then suddenly they're possessed to keep running.... so I run the mob over to them when they finally stop FOR REAL. I certainly am not attacking that stray mob since I don't want it.

That's your call if you want to escort a rogue mob over to my mosh pit. Once I vokeahawk, I'm expecting it to be in the next overpower cone. If some folks would rather play tug-of-war while the server finishes tabulating enmity on its abacus, I'll let them win every time.

[Ossom]

That's your call if you want to escort a rogue mob over to my mosh pit. Once I vokeahawk, I'm expecting it to be in the next overpower cone. If some folks would rather play tug-of-war while the server finishes tabulating enmity on its abacus, I'll let them win every time.

This is how I feel about dps checks, or even putting up DoTs. If the server, and by my extension my group expects me to perform a certain way then I'm just gonna let them win down every time.

oh wait..

[ProvidenceBreaker]

I must be unique in that I'll start out each trash pull applying DoTs (Mutilate/Thunder) while assessing which one the tank and the other DPS happen to decide to focus on. By the time I've made that determination, i'm swimming in Thundercloud procs and making up for my slow start. If applicable, while on Ninja, I will just shadewalker and blow everything up with Katon. I'd probably be "that guy" if I ever seriously played summoner, though. The shiny red button that launches all the nukes is just too irresistible.

[TSLsmokey]

I must be unique in that I'll start out each trash pull applying DoTs (Mutilate/Thunder) while assessing which one the tank and the other DPS happen to decide to focus on. By the time I've made that determination, i'm swimming in Thundercloud procs and making up for my slow start. If applicable, while on Ninja, I will just shadewalker and blow everything up with Katon. I'd probably be "that guy" if I ever seriously played summoner, though. The shiny red button that launches all the nukes is just too irresistible.

As someone who plays SMN regularly, I can say you are not alone. While I wait for the tank to have a decent amount of aggro before unloading, I still manage to pull mobs from them. Bane+ShadowFlare+Bliz2+Miasma2 tends do it easily... God help them if I decide to Deathflare.