Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Granyala]

If a player wants to role play an ice Mage in a level 60 dungeon they should have every right. This is something players need to accept they may come across when they enter a group of random people.

No. Just ... NO.
This is a false statement and I have -0- sympathy for it.

Role play is one thing, crippling your output and making everyone suffer for it is another. Also, if you truly want to hardcore RP in a dungeon, get a custom group with likeminded people (good luck with that one).

People are expected to hold to a minimum standard rotation in group content in order to achieve acceptable output. No on is asking for extreme minmax or elite skills in random content, but purposefully gimping yourself is unacceptable.

Also, at first glance 5% dmg boost from Enochian may look so small many people don't see the point.

I never used Enochian pre 60, because 5% ... who cares. However at 60 it becomes mandatory because: Fire IV. Trust me, I hate the Enochian system as much as the next guy, it basically ruined the fun of playing BLM for me completely, but there is no way around it.

People act like Enochian is the hardest concept in the game. All you have to do is make sure you can get a Bliz 4 off before the time hits 0. That's it, you don't even have to maintain it for more than 2 Bliz 2s because it will be back up before the 3rd set. Not sure why people act like that is game breaking.

It's not hard, it's frustrating. Esp when you consider the abysmal buff tracking UI in this game. Watching some tiny timer like a hawk is simply put, not fun. Add to that weird UI delays and casting delays due to waiting time upon buff application and the whole thing simply feels clunky and non-fluid.

Also the timers are so tight, that movement at the wrong time can completely screw you over.

[TheUltimateSeph]

No. Just ... NO.
This is a false statement and I have -0- sympathy for it.

Role play is one thing, crippling your output and making everyone suffer for it is another. Also, if you truly want to hardcore RP in a dungeon, get a custom group with likeminded people (good luck with that one).

People are expected to hold to a minimum standard rotation in group content in order to achieve acceptable output. No on is asking for extreme minmax or elite skills in random content, but purposefully gimping yourself is unacceptable.

Aside from the guy saying not to take it as encouragement it actually it possible for an Ice Mage to pull off some decent dps.

[Granyala]

Aside from the guy saying not to take it as encouragement it actually it possible for an Ice Mage to pull off some decent dps.

Well dummy tests aren't really conclusive.

Item level 182 (i180 weapon), 3 minute testing, no cooldowns:
Ice III -> Ice IVx2 -> Ice III: 557DPS
Lv 50 rotation: 900DPS
Lv 60 rotation: 882DPS