How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

A3S stuffs.

Battle Litany is kinda flexible. You'll get 4 shots in the course of an 11-12 minute fight. If your group kills it in 10 or less, you'll have less flexibility, because you absolutely DO wanna get 4 casts of BL. Using it on cooldown, you end up using 1 on pull, 1 for adds, 1 for the first hand, and 1 around the second hand, but a phase or two before it. I usually will hold that last BL for the second hand, since no real reason not to. The important thing to note is that, with a shortened fight duration, if you're only gonna get 2 BLs in the final phase *anyway* you might as well pop one for adds.

Phase 2 re:Geirskogul and B4B - I like to use my B4B as soon as it comes up and get 1 gsk under that initial shot. I can usually get 6 gsk in phase 2, with a total of 10 hits between them all (1 on initial hand, 4 on double, 1 after hop split). All counted together, it's 4 under B4B, 6 without. I worry that holding your first gsk for such a long time in p2 is gonna drastically cut down on how many you get in the phase and overall lower your dps, since the hands split around 45 seconds into the phase, which is already a significant portion of your BotD that you're throwing away because you wanna wait for double hands.

Isn't it also a little risky/not that good an idea to delay B4B like that and then lose a gcd of B4B to the wash away as well as lose however many gcds you delayed at the end of the phase, as well? My B4B wears off just before second wash and comes back just at the end of HoP, allowing for a B4B DFD+gsk on the double hands almost every time.

The ideal situation is to have an AST who feeds you a spear just as p2 starts, obviously. :P


AND YES. So OP. That's why I want it. ;-;

[Ash_Smokespear]

A3S stuffs.

Thanks, nice to get multiple opinions here. We haven't cleared A3S yet, only last week saw the 'whole' fight (technically not the whole fight since we didn't see the enrage but we were at the second rotation of the last part with the bubbles moving about) so I guess I have some leeway in when to pop BL. I'll have to experiment in phase 2 a bit to see what works best for me with regards to B4B and GK. I'm usually ending that phase around 1.3k dps on average, not using potions as of yet until we meet the enrage.

After the add phase, should I pop everything during that first cascade with the risk that ferrofluid kills several seconds of my uptime?

[JackFross]

After the add phase, should I pop everything during that first cascade with the risk that ferrofluid kills several seconds of my uptime?

After add phase, all I have up is Jump+SSD (sometimes), DFD (I save this for after Ferro), and BotD. I use IR+B4B near the end of add phase (usually on the final Piston wave; I'll burn mine down then SSD to whichever tank is having trouble to finish that one off). Others will pop it after the last Ferro in adds phase goes out, so you will definitely get your 9 gcds and such.

Either way, it won't be back until after Ferro, so there shouldn't be a dilemma as to when to use it.

There's a small contingent of people who don't like to use B4B during adds, but there's no reason not to. You'll get +1 bonus B4B in the fight that people who DON'T use it there won't necessarily get. Plus, you can get double/triple gsk hits under that b4b if the positioning is friendly!

[Ash_Smokespear]

There's a small contingent of people who don't like to use B4B during adds, but there's no reason not to. You'll get +1 bonus B4B in the fight that people who DON'T use it there won't necessarily get. Plus, you can get double/triple gsk hits under that b4b if the positioning is friendly!

Yep that's kind of what I was worried about, using it in a phase that doesn't necessarily benefit from faster execution. I guess I won't worry about that any more then