How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[iLyrica-sama]

Thanks for reposting this awesome and informative guide!

So I had a question (not sure if this was asked already or not; I will delete this post if so), but how would we set up this rotation on a hotbar for those on PC playing with a controller (an XB1 controller specifically for myself)? Thanks in advance!

[raela]

Thanks for reposting this awesome and informative guide!

So I had a question (not sure if this was asked already or not; I will delete this post if so), but how would we set up this rotation on a hotbar for those on PC playing with a controller (an XB1 controller specifically for myself)? Thanks in advance!

That is 100% personal preference. There have been multiple posts on people's own set ups recently (check the thread listings for the DPS forum), but in the end, play around and see what makes sense to you.

[JackFross]

Thanks for reposting this awesome and informative guide!

So I had a question (not sure if this was asked already or not; I will delete this post if so), but how would we set up this rotation on a hotbar for those on PC playing with a controller (an XB1 controller specifically for myself)? Thanks in advance!

There's several options listed here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-setup-for-DRG

If you wanna convert those longer listed setups to 360 controllers, follow this handy guide:
O = B
▲= Y
◘ = X
X = A

Major recommendations:
1. Get used to extended bars. Do not use them to keep some always-used skills like mounts and such. It's way more efficient and much faster to use the extended bars (RT>LT and LT>RT being two distinct bars) to hold your extra skills, rather than tapping RB to cycle. This is more just a general rule of thumb.
2. Try and keep the majority of your attacking skills in places you can hit while moving - particularly the ones with positional requirements. For me, that tends to be the face buttons (ABXY) and down on the d-pad.
3. Get used to extended bars. Seriously. I swear by them, and have yet to meet someone who uses R1/RB cycling for their main skills while maintaining high dps. It's clunky and awkward comparatively.
4. Don't be afraid to hide less-used skills on a hard-to-reach hotbar (via R1/RB cycling) such as Piercing Talon, Feint, Doom Spike, and Ring of Thorns.
5. Match skills across jobs! Keep your primary skills for each job in the same basic place. It makes it really easy to swap from one to another without needing to remember how things are set up. For example, where I have the Full Thrust combo is also where I have Fire 1-3-4 and Thunder 3 on Black Mage, and Syphon Strike combos for Dark Knight, and it's where I have Cure 1-2/Regen/Tetra and Physick/Adlo/Lustrate/Embrace on WHM and SCH.

[Sennema]

really good points but I have to shorten for character requirements

Agreed on all points, although I'm hesitant to use separate bars for Rt>lt, Lt>rt although I'm sure it would make life easier, I just tend to go RT first every time and haven't bothered to train myself to go LT first ever. I use R1 cycling but only use the right side of hotbar 2. That said, sometimes things don't go off (When B4B doesn't trigger on an opener, rage ensues). Maybe I'd have better success if I just took the time to train myself into a new habit... Must investigate.

I find R1 cycling seems to work ok for me as DRG, and even as DRK, but scholar it gives me problems (Although I should get rid of the pet hotbar maybe and move some skills) and also as I approach 50 BLM I'm quickly finding my hotbar is getting sloppy.

[JackFross]

Yeah, I trained myself when it came out to use it, and I beat a lot of the issues by having my most common alt-bar skills (Heavy Thrust and Leg Sweep) in the same place on both sides (Y and down, respectively) so I can use them regardless which one I open up.

And I know this isn't the thread for it, so under a cut:

You really shouldn't use the Pet Hotbar on any pet classes. The only skills you need off it are their main skills; the place/obey/etc can be relegated somewhere hidden, while Embrace/Whispering/Covenant/Illum/Wind should be on your main bars (I use tricky stuff that swaps those skills depending on which pet I summon).

And BLM is the easiest - so many of your skills become useless as you level up that you end up with an extremely small array of buttons that you actually *need* on your bar. There's so few that I even put Freeze on for maximum fun.

[Darwyn_Ulondarr]

What are everyone's thoughts and theories about PvP stat weights? Putting aside ACC for the moment, I'd say pumping CRT and DET is a given for burst damage, but how much skillspeed (if any) would everyone take into a game?

[MiniTyra]

If you're using jumps as soon as they're off CD, delaying it by 1 GCD (in your case, after PH) will allow you to get that Jump buffed, yup.

The thing about running 670+ SS, is that you can use the BFB before the PH, which is more PPS than using it after the PH, and still get your Jump buffed by the BFB. Only downside is that your jump alignment is right after a CT (last 0.5s of BFB), so you need to use it here, which means you may get animation locked and unable to position yourself for your WT/FC. You can mitigate this by placing yourself right on the corner of the Rear/Flank... But it's still risky.

Trading Phleb for a 4th hit + Jump turned out to be a net gain of B4B potency, in general.

Yeah, my bro math off the top of my head says thats correct.

Still not as much potency as getting the buffed PH + Jump, however. It's one of the many few reasons why I love running 690 SS.

[JackFross]

That makes sense. And I never have issues with using Jump after CT - the only issue is that exact moment of using it. Generally, I'll hit CT, position, Jump, 4th hit without any delays or potency loss. With that b4b, doing that causes me to miss b4b with the Jump. Doing it like you suggested could mean losing 90 potency on the next hit. Seems like a sorta weird risk-reward that I *feel* would be more worth it to just not lose the 90 potency. The b4b would only give ~99 bonus potency on the Jump, including all the buffs, whereas missing the positional loses you ~113 potency, a net loss of 13. It's probably worth it due to the failure being -13 and the success being +99, but yeah.

I might have to look into making a higher skill speed set to test it out and see how it works for me. That 1633 dps video had you running ~690 sks?

[Ninjah2r]

soo I did less dps yesterday on thordan than I did when I was i203 ish back in november lmao. I'm i209 now, got 899 dps lol. I do 1500 at the dummy so my rotation should be good enough, but how the fuck do I increase my dps in that fight?
I mean I've asked back then here, and trying to implement all those tips, and I'm also staying alive lmao.

The way I see it is I can max my dps if I'm not lb'ing (x2) getting towers, and just play greedy/risky...

Is fflogs link enough for you guys to see what's wrong (bufflist etc) or will a vid be better?