Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[RiceisNice]

I think there may be some confusion between the differences in an Elite and an Elitist.

I know what elitism means, and you making a post to describe it is still missing the point and honestly feels like you're arguing for the sake defending yourself or being in the right.

Sorry all I see in you right now is an elitist who thinks everyone should automatically know things about the game based on some innate knowledge and research everything about the game whenever new patches are released. I stand by everything I have said here, and will only admit I could have said some of it nicer. Have a nice day/

This was your reply to someone saying that you should have known that you get new skills as you level. At that point, you're skipping over the basic concepts of a game that has character growth (something you don't even need to research mind you, because any game with a leveling system grants your characters more skill, even if it's a beat em up like castle crashers.) It become less of an elistist attitude because you didn't meet their expectation, but more of an "What an idiot" attitude because you've overlooked something really big, but also very fundamental to the game (which again, applies to almost anything outside of this game)

Our point is, stop defending, making up excuses, and victimizing the people who apparently can't grasp basic concepts of a game (which isn't just not having the new a bilties, but not understanding job mechanics.. This isn't a new thing by the point you're level 50 and you're still doing so. You don't need to "research" anything to know that you get new abilities as you level, and that you get new abilities from quests. You keep making up excuses on why they wouldn't have it (and quite frankly, they're terrible excuses because all it really boils down to is that you're tunnel visioning.)

But berating them for it and saying that they are what's wrong with the game isn't the way to approach the situation. It only alienates them and that is what creates this rift between extremely casual and more mid-core to hard-core players. This is all just my opinion of course.

Honestly, no one even brought this (not having skills because they skipped MSQ) until you did, and then you get called out for it. The topic intially started at a BLM that has a skill he already has access to, but chooses not to use it, and you responded with how you didn't know there was new skills between 50-60. Honestly, it really should have stopped at "Yeah i was in a rush to complete the story and I completely forgot I can get new skills when I level", a short-sighted mistake tat you got called out on and should've been left at that. Which goes back to my example about tunnel visioning. The rift is happening because you're throwing out the elitist tag for people apparently to expect others to know that you gain skills as you level, never mind have an understand of basic gameplay that has been reoccurring as soon as level 2 of this game. You perceive it as an attack because it's happened to you, but instead of accepting it and moving on, you want to justify it then label others who have that expectation (because you may have not been able to meet it as such initially) or call people out for having it because it's so fundamental to the game an elitist.

Regardless of your "hard numbers" or lack of, they can still kick you for calling them out if they have the support of more than themselves in 4 man content. Parsers wont help the problem at all, in my opinion they would only add another layer to the entire mess giving people another large stick to beat people with. Parsers are great for endgame content, but if your parsing people in a roulette dungeon just to call them out because they aren't going all out?]

People are going to do this regardless of parsers. However, its also grounds for people to genuinely not know where they are placing in their performance in a dungeon, and leaves for less "credibility" for the dps to gauge their contribution to the group (as opposed to the tank or healers, especially in a game where they both can contribute to dps). Right now if I was in a group, I can't even tell people they're doing less than the healers without being able to prove it and not risk getting myself banned. The "stick" is already there for people who have the parsers, except they just do it behind your back so chances are, they won't even know they're doing less than ideal without a word being said to them. If the concern is verbal harassment for doing low numbers...well verbal harassment is reportable to begin with and I don't think that it'd be a huge issue (espesically if said people are going ot harass people with low numbers because they have ACT on anyway, they just won't say it up front).

IMO only an oversensitive moron ignores genuine criticism, even if the criticism was given in a rude manner.

They have the right to ask the critic not to be rude, but they really shouldn't use that as an excuse to dodge the question as well.
The BLM should have given proper thought as to why they weren't using Enochian. The fact that they didn't just suggests that they're likely the type of bad who isn't keen on improving.

I'll say it again, because I feel that this is key to any sort of communication in regards to critique; It's only offensive if you take it as such. I personally wouldn't have minded being called a bot because honestly, no one ever talks in DF and I've had my fair share of botting. However if your performance can get that monotonous (which every job can do in regards to 1, 1-2-3 or BLM astral/umbral patterns is concerned,and the latter is incredibly notorious for that) to that point then something is up especially in a level 60 setting. Not to say there wasn't a better way of approaching it, but they wanted to make a scene out of it. They ended up starting using enochian, so they're just kicking for extremely petty reasons instead of legitimate ones :x