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    Adolf Weismann
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Unfortunately, I'm looking down at you in your nice deep hole. You may want to stop digging or you'll lose the little light you can see.
    Let's look at the facts shall we? Prior to HW release player has completed all their job quests. After HW release there is no in-game notification of new job quests for the player to do. Player continues with their MSQ and does not read patch notes because it is not mandatory and are busy having fun with the new story. Player is in the mindset that this is a game and not a job and is not thinking like one of the hardcore elitists (Oh I better go research all this stuff that just got released in case I miss something totally vital to my game life and therefore become complete trash) Player is then politely informed when they reach end game and no longer have MSQ to work on that they have new job quests for awesome new skills and should go check them out. Player is grateful and does so, learns to use new job skills and the world continues to spin. Sorry all I see in you right now is an elitist who thinks everyone should automatically know things about the game based on some innate knowledge and research everything about the game whenever new patches are released. I stand by everything I have said here, and will only admit I could have said some of it nicer. Have a nice day/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Let's look at the facts shall we? Prior to HW release player has completed all their job quests. After HW release there is no in-game notification of new job quests for the player to do.
    But, I gotta ask, didn't it strike you as odd when you got to about 54-55 and you hadn't learned anything new? I can understand not knowing for a few levels, but after a certain point I'd be wondering if I was missing something. Even when leveling 1-50 we got class/job quests every 5 levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    But, I gotta ask, didn't it strike you as odd when you got to about 54-55 and you hadn't learned anything new? I can understand not knowing for a few levels, but after a certain point I'd be wondering if I was missing something. Even when leveling 1-50 we got class/job quests every 5 levels.
    Honestly as caught up in the story as I was it really didn't strike me as odd. My hotbar was already stuffed to bursting as it was so new skills didn't even cross my mind.

    About my earlier post regarding people being new to MMOs, I mean that in not everyone thinks the same, what's obvious to one person can be a total mystery to the next. Instead of people saying that it's the players fault for not knowing stuff and berating them for it why can't we all just share that knowledge politely as a community? Help each other grow and get better instead of asking if they are a bot when they are playing in a way we may not be accustomed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Honestly as caught up in the story as I was it really didn't strike me as odd. My hotbar was already stuffed to bursting as it was so new skills didn't even cross my mind.

    About my earlier post regarding people being new to MMOs, I mean that in not everyone thinks the same, what's obvious to one person can be a total mystery to the next. Instead of people saying that it's the players fault for not knowing stuff and berating them for it why can't we all just share that knowledge politely as a community? Help each other grow and get better instead of asking if they are a bot when they are playing in a way we may not be accustomed to.
    The log-in screen has a link to the patch notes when the preliminary notes are released, as well as the final set. The log-in screen. PS4, PS3, PC, Potato. Its there, flashing in your face with a pretty picture to go along with it.

    No excuses for not reading them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    The log-in screen has a link to the patch notes when the preliminary notes are released, as well as the final set. The log-in screen. PS4, PS3, PC, Potato. Its there, flashing in your face with a pretty picture to go along with it.

    No excuses for not reading them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Edit: I'm not going to go through and read the massive wall of scrolling text that is the patch notes in it's entirety every single freaking patch. That's the last thing I want to do right after a patch anyway, I want to dive in and start experiencing all the cool new stuff.
    Even if that means trying to find out about it myself, and if I don't find out about it myself someone will probably tell me as in my case.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Even if that means trying to find out about it myself, and if I don't find out about it myself someone will probably tell me as in my case.
    So, basically...you don't want to research things yourself, want to screw up so other people tell you what you need to do (AKA, do part of your job for you).

    You need to stop being upset that people are calling you out on your lazy BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    So, basically...you don't want to research things yourself, want to screw up so other people tell you what you need to do (AKA, do part of your job for you).

    You need to stop being upset that people are calling you out on your lazy BS.
    Nit pick and twist my words all you want. Me not wanting to research a game does not translate to me wanting to screw up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    The log-in screen has a link to the patch notes when the preliminary notes are released, as well as the final set. The log-in screen. PS4, PS3, PC, Potato. Its there, flashing in your face with a pretty picture to go along with it.

    No excuses for not reading them.
    Patch notes for any update tend to be looooong, and filled with references to things I may not be familiar with (since I have not reach that particular part of the game yet.) Every time I have started reading one of them my eyes start to glaze over and I lose interest before I get halfway through. And I am the kind of person who generally does read instructions and guides before playing.

    I would bet 90%+ of players will, at best, take a quick glance at the patch notes and then skip the rest. If they bother to even look at them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
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    You keep saying elitist, but I really don't think you know how to use that word because that really has nothing in relation to what people are expecting out of others. It's not elitist to expect people to know that they get new skills as they level, that's absolutely outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Sorry all I see in you right now is an elitist who thinks everyone should automatically know things about the game based on some innate knowledge and research everything about the game whenever new patches are released. I stand by everything I have said here, and will only admit I could have said some of it nicer
    You wont believe how many times I hear/read this excuse.
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