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  1. #251
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    something surprises me alot though in all these posts....to know that fellow healers do all they can to wipe a group or make other people life miserable..just bcause some cant play their role properly or as you see it, doesnt mean you should kill them on purpose....
    That's not really how it goes. I've noticed that, unless someone has played a healer class before, they really don't do anything to make our jobs easier. I've had runs where DPS would stand in AoE's AND DoTs, tanks would make massive pulls and use no CDs, etc. The same players often run outside of healing range and bring their AoEs and tethers to me. It's the inconsiderate players that we'll sometimes let die, sometimes for our own good, not players that "don't do their jobs" well. I personally don't care how low your DPS is or how squishy my tank is; so long as they do their part in staying alive and not creating chaos by ignore mechanics, we're fine.
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  2. #252
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    Auxilio's Avatar
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    Miss Cioccolata
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    After a string of annoying Void Ark Machinists that refuse to stand on the same side of the arena as the rest of the group, I've fallen back to my old rule of:
    If the entire party is in 1/3 of the arena and you're in far third, I'm not going run over to your lazy butt to give you a cure, because you can show some situational awareness, too.
    I'm guilty of "I'm not going run over to your lazy butt to give you a cure, because you can show some situational awareness, too." part. I ignored a dying DPS (who died eventually and didnt get a rezz) just because he was waaaaaaaaaaay over the far end of where our party was throughout the entire raid. It really reduced the time I needed to run back and forth, and stressing out to locate said player.

    I simply do not understand how anyone fails on THE most basic rule of sticking with your party. It is extra astonishing to see this at end-game too.
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  3. #253
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    Empty-handed's Avatar
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    Empty Handed
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    Ragnarok
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    sigh, im really sure where to post this. i play astro as my alt. there is something that annoys me alot, it seems that there is a stigma attached to Astro unfortunately. maybe only in my server. im not sure.

    but every Thordan ex farm pt they have a permanent spot for WHM. and the second healing spot for SCH/AST. which forces me to play a Nocturnal Sect astro, something i dont like or enjoy to do.

    i have healed in both sects, and from experience i think Astro can do both. Diaurnal is more optimal i would say. and fun ; ;

    im not sure if other astros prefer one sect over the other. or are they forced to play one (just like how every thordan ex farm pt refuse to take an astro instead of whm, due to bad rep? stigma?)
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  4. #254
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I admit I make a point of sitting down while everyone's topped off during DPS mechanics if people whine at me for DPSing. My, that bomb is getting AWFULLY close to blowing up, could just take a little bit of extra damage to push it over... eh, you guys just work harder to do it, after all, I'm not supposed to be DPSing apparently :P
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  5. #255
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amiaze View Post
    All of this
    ^ All of that

    The times I 'let' a person die is if they're indirectly putting the rest of the group in danger by splitting my attention, causing me to run back and forth at bad times, or they're literally a waste of mp (and I don't mean that in an insulting way... I mean that in a "I'm running out of mp curing/raising you because you don't want to move" way). Even if it's a genuine mistake - decisions must be made.

    I will not kill the many, just because the one refuses to cooperate or be more attentive to their surroundings.
    Even if that means letting a person die so I can transplant them where they NEED to be, because no one else, in a raid of 4-5 other healers, is obviously going to help/helping them >_> *Ala pagan knot area of Void Ark...*

    There are at some points where my patience is gone - I do take it upon myself to ignore their HP for a short time to teach them that I won't be walked on/their personal heal monkey when I've the rest to worry about, as well. But this all depends on what I've observed them doing, or saying, or acting, too. Being an ass puts them on my lowest list to help.... >_> If they're notably getting D/C symbol every now and then, prior to their oopsies, I hold nothing against them and assume it's lag. If it's a person with a bad/rude disposition and pulling ahead of the tank, etc.... well, I'll only prioritize healing them through it if it means it keeps the others safe. I won't pretend to be a goodiegoodie and heal everyone equally for players with poor attitudes that don't deserve it. Personal skill is not in the equation - you can just tell when someone is being lazy.
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    Last edited by Saseal; 12-23-2015 at 12:59 AM.

  6. #256
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    After a string of annoying Void Ark Machinists that refuse to stand on the same side of the arena as the rest of the group, I've fallen back to my old rule of:
    If the entire party is in 1/3 of the arena and you're in far third, I'm not going run over to your lazy butt to give you a cure, because you can show some situational awareness, too.
    I had a SMN that did the same thing. She stood on the other side of the arena from the other 7/8 of us and bitched in /p from time to time about not getting any heals. Look, it's not my fault that you chose to stand 3 freakin miles away during the one part of Void Ark that actually requires the healers to be semi-awake (3rd boss). If you're out of range, I'm sure as hell not going to go chase you down. People that repeatedly stand in the stupid end up at my fairy's mercy. If you're too lazy to move, I'm too lazy to click and heal you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearemy View Post
    I may or may not have knocked the Remedy Bomb right into the Grey Bomb during the final boss fight in Pharos Sirius HM. -Cough-
    I may or may not have accidentally done this while trying to Miasma II the Remedy bomb to slow it. >.>
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  7. #257
    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Confession:

    When the dungeon starts if you don't wait the 3 seconds it takes me to swiftcast Stoneskin II and slowcast Protect, you aren't going to get Protect from me at all (unless you are the tank, then I MIGHT protect you before the first boss because you probably don't know how to use buffs either).
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  8. #258
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Confession:

    When the dungeon starts if you don't wait the 3 seconds it takes me to swiftcast Stoneskin II and slowcast Protect, you aren't going to get Protect from me at all (unless you are the tank, then I MIGHT protect you before the first boss because you probably don't know how to use buffs either).
    I've done this before. >_> I ain't wasting my MP on another Protect mister tank so deal with it. I can heal you just fine without it.
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  9. #259
    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I've done this before. >_> I ain't wasting my MP on another Protect mister tank so deal with it. I can heal you just fine without it.
    It happened in Expert Roulette to me the other day.

    I have really slow net, so sometimes it takes me a couple minutes to connect to the dungeon. But when I did I pushed my Swiftcast key and then Stoneskin II and began casting Protect. Only myself and one of the DPS got Protect and the tank hadn't even bothered to wait on Stoneskin at all.

    Annoyed, I caught up to this half-dead tank, Bene'd, and helped DPS mobs. After we finished, I Swiftcasted Stoneskin II and they were off again with the impatient DPS in toe (the 2nd DPS stuck beside me when those two ran ahead, bless him).

    The tank didn't wait before or after the first boss either, they just kept chugging along. But after the 1st boss the tank pulls the turtle and the 2 caterpillars down to the ants and proceeds to stand in every AoE (because they were typing), "If you're not going to bother putting Protect on me, I'm not popping anymore buffs for you."

    And then they dragged those 6 mobs over to the honeycomb and, yes, proceeded to not pop any buffs. >.>

    The things we put up with, I swear. Smh.
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  10. #260
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Sophia Sormanu
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    when a tank forget his CDs, or plain ignore them rather then forget, I ask after a pull of a 9999999999999999 mobs if he could do something to lower the damage intake. The asnwers I receive are just baffling, it ranges from...*you are there to heal, do your job*, *I dont have CDs to lower damage*, *I use them only if I must* and * you are a bad healer, if you were a good healer I shouldnt need to use CDs*, rarely an answer I got from nice people * I will see what I can do* this last answer is the difference between a wipe and a clear often.

    I stopped loooonngg ago worrying about these things, especially when they are warned that I am wellll undergeared and proceed to pulll not one room but two, yep...even that
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