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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    To the tank I let die on accident in Pharos HM: I said I was mashing Essential Dignity, but it was already on CD. Yeah, it was, but I actually was too busy with tunnel vision to heal.
    I'll admit, to my great shame, I've done the failed CD bit with Benediction while DDing before. I swear its icon looked like it was off CD, but its CD was so long that there was like 10 seconds left and the little slice was so small I could barely see it. I kept mashing the button it's assigned to, wondering why it wasn't going off and wondering why my tank died.

    And, of course, the Benediction goes off the second he dies and hits me instead.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 11-28-2015 at 09:02 PM.

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    Saurillon Lorne
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    There was a monk that apologised to us, healers, for being in another side of the room in Void Ark. I was speechless and literally shed a tear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan View Post
    There was a monk that apologised to us, healers, for being in another side of the room in Void Ark. I was speechless and literally shed a tear.
    That's the type of person you befriend if they're on your server.
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I never actually read all of Diurnal and Nocturnal Sect's text. I just saw, "Blahty blahty blah Regen" or "Blahty Blahty Blah Shield." And my first couple of runs after getting Nocturnal Stance left me unimpressed so I just stuck with Diurnal. It wasn't until leveling in the Library someone said something. It was a tank and he said something along the lines of, "Stop using your DPS stance." I thought he meant Cleric, so was Ok. Then near the end he said something like, "If you're going to stay in your DPS stance at least DPS." I thought he was crazy so I just went with it. Then a couple of days later someone else said something along the same lines, but actually mentioned Diurnal and Nocturnal. So I actually took a closer look and noticed Diurnal had a 5% Attack Speed increase and Nocturnal had a 5% Healing Potancy Increase. Whoops.

    Thinking back, people have probably said something about it before, but I just assumed they meant Cleric Stance.
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    Chii Soseriouz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    "If you're going to stay in your DPS stance at least DPS." I thought he was crazy so I just went with it. Then a couple of days later someone else said something along the same lines, but actually mentioned Diurnal and Nocturnal. So I actually took a closer look and noticed Diurnal had a 5% Attack Speed increase and Nocturnal had a 5% Healing Potancy Increase. Whoops.

    Thinking back, people have probably said something about it before, but I just assumed they meant Cleric Stance.
    It seems you're both confused. Attack speed directly effects your cast time, to put it simply anything that boosts attack speed is like a haste for your spell cast, healing spells included. Buffs like Presence of Mind, Arrow, and Fey Wind all increase attack speed by a percentage as described in the tool tip, all benefit you as a healer because they hasten your cast times.
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    Saito Hikari
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    To the Ninja I was with doing EX roulette at Arboretum just now: Sorry for letting you die to Soul Vacuum because I thought I could kill the boss before it went off.

    (Although that brings up a hypothetical question: Would a DPS at 12.8k max HP even survive a Soul Vacuum with 3 vulnerability stacks?)
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 11-30-2015 at 05:05 PM.

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    Lele Santoix
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    When I heal in pvp (most of the times), I laugh at the people that die because they decide to chase into enemy grounds.
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    Garnet Tribal
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    When doing Void Ark, I absolutely refuse to run around in order to heal someone who is far away. If you're not with the group and you die, you just learned a lesson. I'm not going to chase someone to heal.

    I feel that healers get sh*t on so much in the game; this is the one area where I have total control.
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    Lele Santoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarnetTribal View Post
    When doing Void Ark, I absolutely refuse to run around in order to heal someone who is far away. If you're not with the group and you die, you just learned a lesson. I'm not going to chase someone to heal.
    I haven't healed VA yet, but I used this policy in the CT raids and I plan to stick with it for VA too.
    To think that now you can see if you are close or not to the healer.. You just need to watch the party list, it's not difficult.
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhiro View Post
    your ass should be fucking moving.
    Sorry for the outburst. This kind of stuff bothers the hell out of me.
    Oh come on, how many more smileys and "fun" speech do I have to use until you notice I was joking around?

    But since you want to be serious, fine: it's not dps tunnel vision. I don't know if you have a BLM at 60, but the class works on various timers. Enochian is the one buff that has to stay up, and losing it is not just a matter of "how annoying, now I have to sacrifice a GCD to get it again", all your new skills become unavailable and your dps drops by about 40% (an estimate based on several people's parser numbers) for up to 40 seconds, depending on how early you lost it. I'm not stupid, I know what I survive and what is dangerous, so it's not like I'd ever die from standing in an aoe I could have theoretically moved out of (not that I do it very often, but it does happen). I'm pretty sure the dps you complained about needing extra healing didn't die from it either, they just required more attention than you were willing to give them.

    About Manawall/Manawand: It doesn't work like that. There is only one situation in which you do not move, and that is when you are casting Blizzard 4 for the Enochian refresh and either the Umbral Ice timer or the Enochian timer are so low already that you can't start the cast again AFTER moving out, meaning Enochian is at ~3 seconds or Enochian is at ~5 seconds with Umbral Ice at 3. And what do you need to do to use Manawall or Manawand? Stop the cast! The sole reason the BLM stays in the AoE in the first place!
    So if I used them, I could also just MOVE, you know? Because both things would lead to me crippling my dps like that, not just the "oh how annoying, I have to sacrifice one Ninjutsu on using Houton again" or the "argh, now I have to reapply both my DoTs seperately!" for BRD.

    And no, that's not dps tunnel vision. I main healer, but I play all classes. That's why I know how they work and why some classes get a (limited) pass from me for getting hit by certain things.
    If anything, I see tunnel vision on your side, since you are blind to how any other job works but your position. Someone stands in an AoE? Burn them alive! No questions asked, like WHY they did what they did. It might surprise you that it doesn't always mean that it's because the player is bad and doesn't care..*sigh*
    Your logic is backwards, if anything, the classes that have a good reason to sometimes prefer getting hit should get 3 strikes while the others get one, since for the others it's just because they were lazy or noticed it too late, while the ones who only get one strike from you are the ones who have an actual reason to stay where they are.

    (I usually don't get hit by AoEs. If I do, it's at most once throughout the whole trial/raid/dungeon run, because I know how to use the abilities that help me through short necessary movements. But I also don't expect every random to be as experienced with their class as I am, so to just not heal them anymore just because they got hit ONCE is seriously rude on your part.)
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    Last edited by Atoli; 11-30-2015 at 10:22 PM.

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