The Current Status of FFXIV Patch 3.1 and How to Address it Moving Forward

[MikaKrystel]

It's great to play a game where the developers openly discuss their consideration on the thoughts of the community, and I think what is discussed here is very thoughtful and well-considered.

I really just want to echo what others have been saying though, which is that if Relic weapons had been released much earlier in their current state, the community would have had a much better reception.

Definitely looking forward to the changes incoming with 3.2.

[Aeolist]

It worries me that the premise behind the relic is something like, casual players like to grind horrible grinds. The logic just doesn't make sense there. Either the sample of players they're using to gauge what the relic should be are hardcore casual grinders, or they're trying to force casual players (square pegs) into their ideals (circular holes)

[Brannigan]

Thanks for the news on the next tier of Alexander. I didn't enjoy this raid as much as the previous three and learning A3S and A4S grinded my soul down into a fine powder. Hopefully this will be the return of the second coil glory days.

[ZhaneX]

It seems like they misunderstood what people meant when they talk about worrying about the Anima and things becoming obsolete. They're saying that they're deliberately making it so that the Anima Weapon will never surpass end-game Raid Content...but what people are worried about is that as soon as the next update hits, the Relic that they spent mindless hours and millions of gil on will be instantly rendered obsolete; not by end-game raid content, but just by the moderately hard content they add to lead up to such.

Honestly, it seems like they're practically saying "Don't bother with Anima; just do End-Game Raids."
With that kind of mentality, what's even the point of adding them? They don't seem to realize that as much "Time" as it takes to get them, people will be able to get an equal or superior weapon just by waiting to do easy content in the next update...

Their statements about adjusting the future updates, in 3.25/3.3 and beyond, seem to suggest they do plan to address these worries...still sucks for now, but hopefully the next stage of advancement will feel more balanced out for everyone.

[JerseyPvP]

Add pve content rewards to pvp wolf mark vendors. I need more players in my queue. Also, good luck trying to balance raid content. It has never happened, and never will. It is a dance back and forth.

The only thing people will agree on is options. More options, more gear options, more content options, more more more! I am paying a subscription. Not an item mall free to play.

Other than that, thank you for dealing with me SE.

[Unaki]

It seems like they misunderstood what people meant when they talk about worrying about the Anima and things becoming obsolete. They're saying that they're deliberately making it so that the Anima Weapon will never surpass end-game Raid Content...but what people are worried about is that as soon as the next update hits, the Relic that they spent mindless hours and millions of gil on will be instantly rendered obsolete; not by end-game raid content, but just by the moderately hard content they add to lead up to such.

Honestly, it seems like they're practically saying "Don't bother with Anima; just do End-Game Raids."
With that kind of mentality, what's even the point of adding them? They don't seem to realize that as much "Time" as it takes to get them, people will be able to get an equal or superior weapon just by waiting to do easy content in the next update...

Their statements about adjusting the future updates, in 3.25/3.3 and beyond, seem to suggest they do plan to address these worries...still sucks for now, but hopefully the next stage of advancement will feel more balanced out for everyone.

I'm not sure where people are getting that Relic is always meant to be BiS. Gear is outdated with every new patch, relic or not. Relics are also not meant to be BiS either, they're designed as an alternative to the top endgame equipment. The logic in your complaints here falls off because this isn't a "one and done" piece of equipment and will instead constantly be evolving between major patches and most likely eventually being customizable so that someone who put in the time can have a BiS weapon without ever raiding. Once again, this is a horizontal upgrade path, not a vertical one and is designed to catch a person up if they choose not to do savage.

Want to spend less time and get your best gear available? GO DO SAVAGE! That's what its there for.

[Kallera]

Its not horizontal if the result is objectively worse than its equivalent, which is what SE is suggesting here for Anima weapons.

Its a scam dressed in a pretty weapon, to enforce the vision that players should only do raids.

[Unaki]

Its not horizontal is the result is objectively worse than its equivalent, which is whay SE is suggesting here for Anima weapons.

Its a scam dressed in a pretty weapon, to enforce the vision that players should only do raids.

Here, I made tinfoil hats for everybody.

[Kallera]

Here, I made tinfoil hats for everybody.

No.

Unless there is something more than looks to the weapon, its just not worth it over the token weapon. It is definitely not worth it to players already engaged in going through content on release.

The anima weapon needs something to make it worth the hassle of putting a grind on top of the standard grind for tokens.

[ZachrielCL]

If the relic quest had come out even a patch earlier, people wouldn't have complained so much. But to hype it up for such a long time, claiming that it needed more time to polish, only for it to be a rehash of old relic content, even down to reusing existing icons (hello, Unidentified Bone using the exact same icon as trash mob drop Bone Chip!) and just general poor execution (being able to throw away or sell to a vendor important relic quest items). What about that needed months worth of development time to improve?

I also wanted an anwer to this :/