Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
So let me get this straight. It's okay for us to sit in front of the boss and do bare minimum DPS, turtle in tank stance and pop a CD every now and then for a buster. While the healers not only heal us, and do mechanics, but also stance dance for cleric stance to push out a ton of DPS, while the DPS does mechanics as well.

It's not okay for healers to just heal but it's okay for tanks to just tank? That seems kind of like a double standard.
Your Healer gears for max heals and max DPS, that's what cleric stance does, you just have to toggle it when appropriate to play your job to the fullest.

You only gear for maximum DPS and effectively take away their ability to DPS because they can't justify jumping into cleric stance because you'll fall over too fast and make them look incompetent for playing their job to the max.

Your statistical DPS boosts aren't worth their complete exclusion from the DPS portion of their character. The Double Standard is you not letting them play their job the way they want by making an assumption on your gear. If you go for Double Melds you can stance dance and so can they. Double melds are the best you can do to allow yourself and your healers to max your performances without excluding one of you from actually playing the game.

If your healer straight up says, "nope I don't DPS, I only heal" then sure you can start making those assumptions. But I play with healers who actually DPS and enjoy it. They put out solid numbers and help with enrages.

From my point of view, you're just an EPEEN bully. Your play experience is no different than if you were in full VIT. You'd still stance dance if you wanted to increase DPS and the only difference that STR gear makes is how large the numbers are and how long a healer can go before they need to heal you.

SE's statement that tanks need to not be the only job that gets singled out for luxury gearing to help raids progress is indicative of fairness for all, not just for EPEEN tanks.

If you don't like my hyperbole then you really shouldn't have thrown it all over your statements. It gives me the idea that you're ok with a discussion that is just black and white.