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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    So then you are automatically assuming the person who has better gear is just better? I've seen i190 bards do less damage than i170 ones because they don't play their class to their max potential.

    "BiS or GTFO" is a stupid attitude to have. For all you know, that 220 melded person is trash.

    If you're comparing two similarly skilled players then sure, better gear wins, but you can't make that judgement on skill just from looking at gear. That's just being elitist.
    Okay i'm just going to say this once I never said that and you're missing my point in my own statics of pushing and improving yourself which MOST of the playerbase don't do. I have seen ilvl 185 mchs beat an ilvl 196 drg because he didn't know his rotation, you can't judge someone based on a pug. I think you're the one being elitist calling people egotistical when I never said any of this or attributed from my own posts.

    If you want to think that i'm elitist go ahead i'm not gonna lose sleep but putting down melding and not doing it is bad it's customization and it's there because the masses wanted it. I for one am going to use it, i'm gonna advocate it however i'm not going to be a jerk about it, it's either you have it or you don't. Prices will drop, people will meld or have someone meld for them it's not hard, it's not time consuming it's part of the game that will make you a better player. It'll help you be a better dps, a better healer, a better tank (individual skill is obviously the first) but i'm not making any judgement calls and neither should you. No one knows what's going to happen with these melds, with the class changes, game changes, raids, mechanics, hell I don't even know it's in the future.

    I'll stick with melds and people melding because it's going to be apart of raiding and statics whether you choose to ignore it or not. Better gear doesn't win at the end of the day skill does and we can't even advocate parsers or tell the person "you should try this" because no one wants to be called a noob or bad. And honestly i'm a pretty patient person who when doing clears will sit down and talk to the people doing the clears and walk them through it I don't flame them or call them bad.

    TLDR; I don't base people on gear if it's a PUG and there's someone who's melded i'll take em if there's someone who's not i'll take em it doesn't really matter to me. It's statics and the people I play with that I want optimized and tuned to their maximum potential because we have to communicate.
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    Last edited by Awful; 10-26-2015 at 03:18 PM.

  2. #32
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    people still think RMT bot have a chance to grind grade V materia from airship exploration?


    OK, i got it
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  3. #33
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    You don't have to say it, it's in your decision making. Taking your own example, you would first recruit that DRG over that MCH just due to gear, and you'd end up with the worse player.

    Then you make blanket statements about the player base and have the nerve to call me elitist just because I'm pointing out the flaws of your logic. Right. Maybe you should take this time to look up what elitist means too since calling me that makes zero sense at all based on what it actually means.

    And if you can't judge someone based on a pug, why are you judging people solely on gear? So you think everyone should just farm money and pentameld all the BiS just to be deemed "pushing themselves enough" to raid? THAT is the definition of elitist. Accepting only those who are "the best" (and those are sarcasm quotes if you can't tell)
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  4. #34
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    gear based judging is just human instinct to prefer anything safer

    you can see gear with real number of gear, you can comparing each other and see how one better than others clearly

    otherwise judging player "skill" before real run with the player is practically impossible, because theres no skill status, rating, rank, whatever like moba

    and yeah, this is MMORPG not MOBA, so get over with that skill>>>anything in this game, gear can compensate lack of skill, like skill can compensate lack of gear.
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  5. #35
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    I disagree with the OP. I think it is a great idea that keeps the economy moving. Materia on raid/tome gear is slots only no forbidden melds Yoshi P said himself in the live letter, you are not going to break your bank on this. I think its fun to put some of my own stats on my gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I disagree with the OP. I think it is a great idea that keeps the economy moving. Materia on raid/tome gear is slots only no forbidden melds Yoshi P said himself in the live letter, you are not going to break your bank on this. I think its fun to put some of my own stats on my gear.
    Couldn't of said it better myself.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
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    Ty, I appreciate it . Well I definitely feel differently about this, now. Had it been 5 per piece, wouldn't have been very happy. I guess I will be saving all future airship materia IVs I get from here on out.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    People want customization and when SE delivers they complain?
    Just wanted to reply to this, what customization? There is still a pretty clear BiS for the meta, there is no customization. Someone will spreadsheet what is an optimal materia build and everyone will go for that. To me this is just another thing to do before you put on a piece of gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Just wanted to reply to this, what customization? There is still a pretty clear BiS for the meta, there is no customization. Someone will spreadsheet what is an optimal materia build and everyone will go for that. To me this is just another thing to do before you put on a piece of gear.
    You're right about that people will do that but it's customization that this game was lacking as it wasn't in 2.0 at all it's nice to see it here when the new gear comes out months from now it'll all be new and eventually there will be guides for every class to be optimal.
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  10. #40
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    I just hope that raid/token gear at least provides enough accuracy on it's own after this change. otherwise this will be your first concern when getting new gear. hate to get a few more shinies just to put in some millions to meet the accuracy check again. also while it will provide some customization, you'll likely meld crit to the cap anyway and then whatever is your next best choice. unless this change will also come with new types of materia for more specific augmentation, which i doubt though
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