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    Russell Westbrook
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    Melding on tomestone / raid gear

    Do not do this, this is a horrible idea. Unless you are going to have materia purchasable with GC seals, hunt seals or law, this is probably one of the worst ideas Ive heard.

    Im a senior officer in a 500 player FC with four airships and 10 million company credits. Im not the least bit concerned about myself in this situation.

    I am literally thinking of the people that are not in a situation to acquire a ton of materia without spending (all of) their hard earned gil.

    This is going to create a whole other level of elitism. I really hope that there is going to be another option for players aside from current ways to get materia or this will get ugly.
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    Last edited by RussW; 10-26-2015 at 10:19 AM.

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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Behemoth
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    I feel the same way to a point, only because this, like the Relic steps, puts the players in charge of your progression, or attempts at progression. Market manipulation will happen almost immediately. Guarantee it. Someone on my server already bought up a sizeable chunk of Det/critical IVs today.

    Likely won't be a big deal outside of savage content and anything below EX primals, but I can already see the PF and this playing out like the no bonus parties.

    I have all 4 of my airships, last one is almost 50, and I as well have 0 issue collecting Materia for this (nowhere near 10m credits /cry) but most players will be SOL. I'm not going to completely poop on the idea, but if every piece will be able to be pentamelded, I'll likely quit doing anything other than Relic and 24mans. I am not going to break the bank for 3 months of playing to only go blow 10m again. Thanks but no thanks.
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    Schala Zeal
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    It's 1 materia per piece of equipment. Probably at 100% chance to meld.

    So, no, it won't drain everyone's money, unless they hope to NEVER earn any gil in any way whatsoever besides running dungeons and hoping the 69 gil drops pay for their food, potions and materia. They could farm fleece or any of the good leather skins and make largely more than enough.

    I'm a sub-leader in a 67 player FC with 3 airship and a massive 348k credits. I'm the highest crafter in the FC, probably the wealthiest (bar isn't so high, but I'm not poor). And I think it would cost less than 2 million per 2 patch (for 3.2, but not 3.3), if we do get V tier more affordable/accessible. You could get 100k from 200 cobalt ores half the time (price fluctuates between 250 and 450 each ore), in what, 20 minutes of gathering? So, in 6-8 months this represents 6 hours of gathering. Other money making methods exist, I just don't know how fast it is to the minute. It's still reasonable for most.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    I think people should not worry as content is not designed to require melds, unless you are trying to be one of the first groups to clear a new brand raid tier where every stat matters. Just see it as an option and a way to customise your tomestone gear to suit your style, stacking speed or crit or whatever. Since pretty much all gear will be meldable it should really invigorate the materia market and get more people doing spiritbonding. The exploratory missions even drop gear of relevant item levels which can be converted.
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    This a terrible idea and could scare many people away from raiding. Specially with how hard the content is at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    This a terrible idea and could scare many people away from raiding. Specially with how hard the content is at the moment.
    Yep, because like I said before, if someone isn't melded yet, they might end up getting the /votekick. If that happen, I'll stick with playing DC Universe.
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    Azira Amaranthine
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    My main concern is that this will mean we 'need' tier 5 materia for the melds...and this still isn't readily available at any price (still around 5 million on my server due to rarity).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    It's 1 materia per piece of equipment. Probably at 100% chance to meld.
    Please source this. I can't find it.
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    I'm not a fan of it. All it amounts to is putting CRIT on the pieces that don't have it and putting something else on the pieces that do. There's no customization here. We're not slapping on interesting traits like "+1% chance to double attack with autoattacks" or "Bane hits an additional target at full strength." It's just something else you will be expected to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    Please source this. I can't find it.
    totoro572 8 points 9 hours ago*

    He talked about two different things and people mixed them up.

    1.Basically Accesories can only fit 1 status materia(VIT STR)and from there on you can only meld materia with stats like accuracy, det, crit.
    2.He talked about Raid gear and Tomestone gear getting a feature where you can put ONE materia on it and he repeated that there is no forbidden melding involved.

    Since they both have the word ONE involved in it some of the translators got confused.

    Source: reddit

    We're not slapping on interesting traits like "+1% chance to double attack with autoattacks" or "Bane hits an additional target at full strength." It's just something else you will be expected to do.
    Because if a special ability like one of those you named was BiS, you don't think it would be expected? Illusion of choice, choice of illusion, same deal. Expected regardless. At least I can have my dream of going all crit without killing my INT because I keep i180 on non-crit pieces or something.
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    Last edited by SchalaZeal; 10-26-2015 at 10:54 AM.

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