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  1. #2521
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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'll just post this here as well. Just happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    I think I just had the worst Dzemael Darkhold experience as a healer.

    This tank man... this tank...

    Starting off, he pulls multiple packs. Okay, considering the Crystal Veil reduces all damage, large pulls are welcome.

    Then after the 1st boss, nothing changes. Oh boy, 3-4 pulls at the cliff area right after the 1st boss. He gets hit for a crap ton of damage and still doesn't pop a single cooldown.

    Yeap, that's right, no Rampart, no Sentinel, no Awareness, no Convalescence, NOTHING.

    The guy was a level 54 PLD.

    The worst part is, the party was not suited for AoE mass pulls. The party consisted of me, an AST, a MNK, a MCH and the tank, a PLD.

    The MCH tries to AoE as much as she can before bottoming out on TP while the mobs are sitting comfortably at 70-ish% health.

    The MNK has no choice but to kill stuff slowly single target because MNK AoE at that level is as good as none.

    Then there's me, the AST spamming everything possible in my arsenal to keep the damned tank alive.

    Luminiferous Aether to hopefully not grab aggro from tank while trying to keep his arse alive, Lightspeed + Aspected Benefic and Helios to try and get as much regen as possible on the tank (He was losing health if I was spamming only Benefic II) while also using Essential Dignity when he got a Physical Vulnerability Up Debuff and I had to cleanse it with Exalted Detriment.

    During this entire sh*tfest of trying to keep him alive, ZERO Cooldowns were used on his end. NONE

    Eventually, I grab aggro because he bottoms out on MP and I die from a single hit from at least 8 mobs.

    I would've just left right there but the DPS were actually trying so I couldn't be an ass and just abandon them. Worst part is, the tank actually had the gall to bark orders to the DPS asking them when to LB.

    After a painstaking 40 minutes, the entire dungeon finally ends and I get 2 commends from the DPS.

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  2. #2522
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    I'll just post this here as well. Just happened.
    Something similar happened to me, last night, in DD while on MCH o_O But the party was DRK, WHM, NIN and I on MCH. Tank pulled everything all the way up to the boss room , into the last glow, WHM had to heal spam so she couldn't holy,really and I just ran out of TP trying to AoE... I did plop my turret to give TP, but it kept poofing while I wasn't looking o_O (weird, since I had stationed it in the glow, too.... shouldn't have died -that- fast, and I wasn't out of MP at all... but maybe there were more enemy AoEs than I could actually see, in that mess).

    It was........ we were there for a loooooooong time...... lol
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    Last edited by Saseal; 10-22-2015 at 02:25 AM.

  3. #2523
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    You know the fight is too long if the lights loop back to the first one.
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  4. #2524
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    You know a fight is long when you hit the enrage timer in A3... like last night. Timer went "boop" at about 3%-ish.
    By the end of that, I had to spam medica/re-apply medica II so much from multi-person damage, that it was more of a light show than T2's ADS, back in the day. >_> (....I won't lie.... I was having fun, having a valid excuse to spam >.>)
    ....And no one moved when they were targeted, no matter how many people overlapped. I took a bit of a break from Alex for a while, but I'm pretty sure marked people would at least move from the clump of people in the middle to avoid sharing splash damage. >_>
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  5. #2525
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    Iris_BP's Avatar
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    Rimini Rie
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Ugh... Just had the worst Fractal run. Tank didn't use any cooldowns, constantly lost aggro to me and BLM (who btw didn't use AoEs), but we managed to get by till the last boss. Then everyone started to eat mines, tank couldn't keep aggro on the last boss at all, boss was jumping all over the arena hitting BLM and me all the time. We died. Then tank started trashing in chat telling me how to play and that Im the worst healer ever, here's the best part:



    I've been promoted to SH*T GOD, not sure how to feel about that, lol.

    We actually cleared it after all, tank still couldn't keep aggro, but I just went full healer mode, took us exactly 12 minutes to finish last boss. Twelve minutes for last boss...
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  6. #2526
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Iris_BP View Post
    Ugh... Just had the worst Fractal run. Tank didn't use any cooldowns, constantly lost aggro to me and BLM (who btw didn't use AoEs), but we managed to get by till the last boss. Then everyone started to eat mines, tank couldn't keep aggro on the last boss at all, boss was jumping all over the arena hitting BLM and me all the time. We died. Then tank started trashing in chat telling me how to play and that Im the worst healer ever, here's the best part:
    Probably way under geared, wearing full VIT and/or pulling in dps stance, which is what I see is the worst offender nowadays and I'll bet that is what happened there. Pulling without tank stance is a no-no when you have blm/drg around and healers with burst DPS. If they actually pull correctly, they can establish a lead in their opener because of the tank stance, and they'll be fine to swap from tank to dps.

    But that isn't always the case in DF land. What really happens is these subpar tanks probably are used to slower dps, and or healers that don't do anything but stand and heal so they get used to this "Oh it looks like I can pull out of tank stance, or stay out of it most of the time" mentality. So when really good DPS including bursty healers show up, and now with higher than i200+ goodness they end up wetting their pants losing aggro. It's not our fault, it's them getting used to being careless.
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  7. #2527
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I hope I don't run into those.
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  8. #2528
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Probably way under geared, wearing full VIT and/or pulling in dps stance
    Strangely he was using shield oath! What I think had happened is his weapon got broken, because despite his claims on the last boss I put nothing but dots after he was beating on it for good 15 seconds. He also had mix of 170 200 and gordian! Welp...
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  9. #2529
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Two words: Ramuh Ex.

    I must have tried over ten times - which doesn't sound like too much, but when the waits are 3+ hours at a time because of wimpy tanks, it feels like a lot. When the tanks weren't messing up (which happened on pretty much every run) and getting OHKO through over/ undercharging then subsequently killing everyone else, I had:

    1) DPS sprinting around taking all the lightning orbs
    2) Party members trying to murder other players caught in lightning circles by standing on top of them with theirs (stop following me!)
    3) Party members trying to murder other players by completely ignoring Chaos (the amount of times they had a struck player in their lightning circle, only to run away?!)
    4) DPS taking leisurely baths in the pool of water when Ramuh casts thunderstorm

    Eventually, I lucked out and found a great party. The tank swapping went smoothly, everyone watched out for Chaos, the DPS knew where to stand and what to do...

    only to end up voting abandon because the combined damage output of FOUR LEVEL 60 DPS couldn't kill the adds in time.
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  10. #2530
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Two words: Ramuh Ex.
    2) Party members trying to murder other players caught in lightning circles by standing on top of them with theirs (stop following me!)
    The number 1 reason I haven't cleared it yet..
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