Reclamation of Inactive Housing announced

[kamikrazy]

That 100M is not worth $15/month.

According to certain people that 100,000,000 investment is worth more than one-thousand two hundred american dollars.

The fact is that that's money you earned, that's progress you made. This would be no different than having your classes you aren't using de-leveled if you didn't use them within 45 days. The only reason is a limited commodity is because they've chosen to make it so. This is just an underhanded way of them trying to use their mistake to keep a certain number of people pressured to stay here indefinitely or else they'll have their work taken from them. It does nothing to serve the players that are locked out of the 1.8% because it isn't doing anything to make houses more available. It's just making them even more competitive than before.

[Twilite]

It's easier to get back 100mil in game as opposed to 1200 USD..

[Felis]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...3e7ccabefa9954

No mention of 90 days anywhere in the NA version. Their mistake, not mine.

※ Die Zählung der Tage beginnt erst mit der Implementierung von Patch 3.1.
※ Bei betroffenen Grundstücken und Unterkünften wird die Zwangsräumung eingeleitet, aber noch nicht sofort durchgeführt. Bis zur Durchführung vergehen weitere 45 Tage, wie im Folgenden unter „Ablauf der Zwangsräumung“ beschrieben.

[BreathlessTao]

We agree here.



I'll say it once again, it is not on the NA version. It is not 'quoted already' currently.

They way the NA list is currently edited, it shows it as the "steps prior" are what happens during the subject of demolishing

Eh. Bottom line is: once again SE can't put details about a major feature into words in an unambiguous way. They also, once again, can't seem to make sure they post the very same things across all the supported languages...

[Sho86]

That extra line is only the German version. Not in NA, FR, or JP.

※ Die Zählung der Tage beginnt erst mit der Implementierung von Patch 3.1.
※ Bei betroffenen Grundstücken und Unterkünften wird die Zwangsräumung eingeleitet, aber noch nicht sofort durchgeführt. Bis zur Durchführung vergehen weitere 45 Tage, wie im Folgenden unter „Ablauf der Zwangsräumung“ beschrieben.

We are now going in circles, congrats. This brings us back to my 3rd post, their mistake, not mine. Which is the actual mistake we'll find out later. I find it hard to believe the JP, NA, and FR are all wrong, but hey weird things happen. I've looked at them myself by now and Spellbinder is right, that version is the only one with that extra line currently.

Edit: anyways i'm heading to bed now. Either way, be it 45 or 90 days, its still a poor system, for reasons already being listed within this thread.

[Nalien]

What if you usually play about 3-4 months each time they add raid content and them take a rest till they add more?

If I was solely interesting in this game for raid content, perhaps that would be a problem. If that was the case though... I'd already have quit the game, seeing as how pathetic raid content is in this game...

We get content patches fairly regularly. If you actually play more than just Duty Roulette and Raids, there is a fair bit of content in this game. With 3.1 they're even adding, IMO, vastly better content with a much better shelf life than any existing content.

If, for whatever reason, patches become less frequent and the content less interesting, I'll stop playing because of that. I wont look at my house and go "Oh no, I need to keep paying $15/month to keep that!", if that is Squares game plan, I'll laugh at how pathetic a plan that is... I'll gladly leave my plots for someone else, who presumably still enjoys the game, to have. If Housing was the bait that kept my subscription fee hooked, I'd have to be a fucking moron. I can play the original Sims for basically free and I'm fairly sure that's a better Housing system...

People are welcome to keep complaining about how this changes nothing, and they're right. I'm fairly certain Yoshida has always sold this as the first step though... We're getting more Housing Wards eventually, heck we're meant to be getting ones in Ishgard... Not to mention a proper sales system to facilitate moving house to Ishgard... The notion that they'll just stop at this is utterly foolish, if they do I'll be right next to you all complaining, but for now I don't see anything suggesting that they'll cancel the Ishgard Wards... All this is doing is freeing up abandoned plots, which like it or not was needed with the current system... Does it change anything? Not if you look at people as numbers, but if you look at people as, well people, more get to enjoy Housing now. Hopefully more Free Companies can get a plot, which through Private Rooms means even more people can enjoy the content... Is this the most amazing Housing adjustment ever? No, not by a long shot, but it's hardly terrible either... People who are calling it a bandaid fix are absolutely right, but what's wrong with that? They've said more Wards are coming, would you rather have nothing in the meantime instead? I'm sure people who've been eyeing plots owned by people who have basically quit aren't complaining. I'm not sure where the people who are complaining actually stand in all this, like I've said though, I own plots and I'm fine with this...

[kamikrazy]

It's easier to get back 100mil in game as opposed to 1200 USD..

This is irrelevant to the discussion. The fact is that if you leave the game you will be punished by losing your house and you will likely never be able to get another one. Players who do not have a house now will most likely never get one. 1.8% of the playerbase still controls all of the wards. This will do nothing to improve the housing situation. All it will do is guarantee that a certain number of people never, ever, ever unsubscribe. It doesn't matter if you personally would or wouldn't base your subscription on something like owning a digital property. The fact is that for most people, gaining gil isn't the value of the housing plot.

The value of the housing plot is the housing plot itself. Getting that is so enormously unlikely and astronomically uncommon (1.8% out of 100%) that they will see it as something that cannot be replaced, unlike the millions of gil that went into buying it. That's why you don't see anyone here complaining about the gil. It's about owning the plot. Because the plot itself has value independent of the gil cost. If it was just a matter of gil no one would care. But it's not a matter of gil. It's a matter of winning the lottery and getting a house at all. I can't believe people can't see through this.

[Reaperking386]

This doesn't fix the problem, this just needlessly punishes the players who got houses

This isn't going to work when every estate is owned by someone who doesn't leave it be for 45 days, in a year or so everyone will once again not be able to buy houses, and all this will do is annoy people and feel like a cheap gimmick to force you to keep playing the game every month even if you want to take a break from it

Terrible choice, I'm very dissapointed in this awful design decision

It is better than nothing at the moment. Ishguard is not ready to open and you can't just kick people out of houses because Square failed to make a rule on how many houses your alts can own.

[Kadrothan]

Once again, SE goes the easy route with housing. Not really surprised after personal housing ended up being a huge letdown. At this rate, I'm inclined to believe that owning a house is going to stay a pipe dream indefinitely for a huge chunk of the player base.

[Ashkendor]

All it will do is guarantee that a certain number of people never, ever, ever unsubscribe.

I dunno about you, but if I decided to unsubscribe it'd be cause I was quitting and in that case I wouldn't care about my house. I'd probably give it away to a friend or something if I knew I wasn't coming back to the game.

I stay subscribed because I enjoy the game, not because I own virtual real estate.

Getting that is so enormously unlikely and astronomically uncommon (1.8% out of 100%)

You're making an enormous (and erroneous) assumption that more housing wards will never be added to the game and no other steps will be taken to alleviate the housing issues. As far as I know, that's not the case. They've already talked about adding wards in Ishgard, albeit not in the near future because the place is still basically a war zone.