Reclamation of Inactive Housing announced

[Sho86]

Estates Subject to Demolishing

That mean that it get seen as inactive after nobody entered it for 45 days.
After the time end it start the Steps Prior to Demolishing

I don't even. Its honestly too late at night to be debating this when its clearly posted; if you truly believe that then go nuts. Don't be surprised though when your house is gone when you took a 2 month break.

[Elvin]

I'll just say this...

For a game that adds top tier raiding counter more or less ONCE EACH SIX MONTHS, having a timer of less than 6 months for this is a shit.

And if they had it at the begining I woud be more or less OK with it. I mean, those are the conditions, take it or leave it.


But a lot of FC already paid for one house.

And there is FC out there that are small and only for raiding, and some of them stop their subscription when they don't have any content to do.


SE adds raids for then each 6-8 months.


Adding this condition after they already bought it just because their servers are bad, is utterly shamefull.

[Tisharu]

What happen if I Demolish the House myself and get a permit for it. Like how people sale their house. Do I get to keep the House forever with this method? I'm curious because there some people who already demolish their house and trying to sale it already.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Okay, I had to google around cause I thought I was going nuts, but this is pretty much the exact same plan from April 2014, the only real difference being that it was 35 days instead of 45. When they scrapped that plan, it took them a year and a half to add 10 days to the expiration timer.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ming-Patch-2.3

The big complaints from that plan? The exact same ones people are bringing up now lol. So 18 months to not solve a problem and just continue with the same plan that people complained about.

They also added a 80% gil reimbursement for the Lot fee and a 35 day furniture reclamation period. Things that the complainers seem to be missing.

[kamikrazy]

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This 45 day timer system effectively is monetizing housing, its written all over it. "Stay subscribed or else." Subscribing gives them money. The "or else" is they'll take your work away from you. This is monetizing, except they are being more subversive about it. They are forcing you to buy your house with your $15/mo subscription. That's really messed up.

And Blizzard announced that even though they've lose 45% of their subscribers, they actually increased their revenue on their players through more monetization. Why wouldn't SE copy that?

The worst part of this is that people are eating it up hook, line, and sinker. This is going to be very unhealthy for the game. If people want to positively impact the housing situation, they need to say NO to this and demand a fix that will give everyone the ability to own an estate and experience the estate content, not the just current .5% that stay subscribed indefinitely.

[Seyb]

I don't even. Its honestly too late at night to be debating this when its clearly posted; if you truly believe that then go nuts. Don't be surprised though when your house is gone when you took a 2 month break.

There is no doubt about it. Felis is right. It takes 90 days until the house is demolished. It says so VERY clearly in the german version.

[Neira]

I want to point out to people that are saying you get 80% of the house value back... there are some items that will be destroyed upon removal. A perfect example if the Regal Mailbox, which is currently worth THREE TIMES on my server what my small house cost me when it was brand new. In fact, my furnishings overall come out to somewhere around 40m gil, and my house only cost 5m. Some of those furnishings I will get back, some I will not.

However, people who've said that using the "what if I lose gil if I don't subscribe?" as an example may not be accurate in the sense that houses are limited and use constant data and gil is not, are forgetting the fact that this action on SE's part will take away gil from the players. Even if you just count the base 20% value, when you're talking 2-50m, that's still literally millions of gil lost. Then add in the furnishings that can not be removed, and some people will be losing tens of millions of gil.

The only thing I need to decide now is whether to quit this game before giving this greedy, lazy company any more of my money, subscribe only every 45 days just to watch people still fail to get a house because THIS SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK, or use my alts to buy up more houses and keep eight locked down just to spite everyone who supports this idea.

Oh, and before anyone calls me shallow or petty for wanting to enjoy watching those who support this decision have no house(still), do remember that YOUR desires are now costing ME money, if I don't want to lose what I put time and effort into getting. Instead, this entire time, all of you should have been asking the people who make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A MONTH on this game, one of the best selling MMOs ever, with over five million subscribers, to come up with a REAL fix instead of trying to rake in extra cash to perpetuate a trash housing system.

Oh, and yeah, I'm angry. I'm angry that they really did this, I'm angry that they gave it such a short time limit, I'm angry that the timer will only refresh for the owner even though shared housing could have allowed it to refresh from numerous people, and I'm angry that so many people are this short-sighted that they would support any system that removes what people put time and effort into with no real gain. Do some math, 92,160 total houses on all servers among 5,000,000 subscribers(ignoring FCs), that's 92160/5000000 = 1.8% of players have houses... now... take away all of their houses and give them to new people because they got evicted then you have... 92160/5000000 = ...1.8% of players still have houses! Hurray for a system that adds NOTHING, punishes people for taking a break, and still keeps 98% of the subscribers out of a home! Good job, fanatics!

[Ruenis]

WTB your unused plots. Please tell.

[Sho86]

There is no doubt about it. Felis is right. It takes 90 days until the house is demolished. It says so VERY clearly in the german version.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...3e7ccabefa9954

No mention of 90 days anywhere in the NA version. Their mistake, not mine.

[Neira]

I think if SE wanted to monetize off Housing, they'd have treated it more like the extra Retainers... I mean, we have to pay real money for extra Retainers because server issues, and the problem with Housing? Server issues. The fact that they're not making people pay extra on their subscription for Housing speaks volumes IMO.

Are you SERIOUS?! What do you think that monthly subscription is for, a pass just to access their free servers????? Are you listening to yourself?!