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  1. #961
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    Ossom's Avatar
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    Ossom Possom
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Adds have higher base accuracy than Bosses in raids.

    Plus there a lot of fights where you might be the only target on an add and so have the aggro of the add and therefore are hitting it from the front (AS1 and AS3 come to mind). If AS4 has something similar (not entirely sure, just did that casual AS3 clear last week) then you want to build accuracy towards the adds frontal.
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  2. #962
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    Ossom Possom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livaille View Post
    I used to play with the camera lock on target and that thing was even better in PVP than the facetarget macro. Pop sprint, motivation and press forward all day, that's very handy.

    I don't use the facetarget macro in PVP because I don't really care about loosing one or two auto attack in PVP but I can understand people being pissed about it.
    Its more so used as a defense mechanism. You are running away from a Drg, Mnk, Nin and also facing them so they are unable to get positionals off on you.
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  3. #963
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Adds have higher base accuracy than Bosses in raids.

    Plus there a lot of fights where you might be the only target on an add and so have the aggro of the add and therefore are hitting it from the front (AS1 and AS3 come to mind). If AS4 has something similar (not entirely sure, just did that casual AS3 clear last week) then you want to build accuracy towards the adds frontal.
    most likely strat groups will use, makes 3 of the dps tank an add, this in turn leaves 1 dps free to do as they like, as such that one person can safely use the flank cap for A4
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  4. #964
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    Levi Aroma
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    most likely strat groups will use, makes 3 of the dps tank an add, this in turn leaves 1 dps free to do as they like, as such that one person can safely use the flank cap for A4
    In my group, my dark knight makes who ever goes in quarantine with him take one or 2 debuffs and uses dps combo instead of aggro. Also in the last phase, we all stack in front of the manipulator to tank the big blue orb, so that makes already 3 reasons to have front cap ^_^
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  5. #965
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    Alexis Wolf
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    Louisoix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Livaille View Post
    In my group, my dark knight makes who ever goes in quarantine with him take one or 2 debuffs and uses dps combo instead of aggro. Also in the last phase, we all stack in front of the manipulator to tank the big blue orb, so that makes already 3 reasons to have front cap ^_^
    Sadly... both of my tanks do the same thing...
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  6. #966
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    Melchior Ballester
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    I've mentioned a few times that Ariyala's doesn't calculate correctly anymore since 3.0 with different weights, at least for monk. Got to do it by hand or build your own solver for now.
    You can change the weight and still use the BiS solver. I got this : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RLYH. I'm not so sure about the accuracy though.
    Also, it doesn't show the stat weight I used. But, I assumed that (like in 2.0) they are the same as DRG's.
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    Last edited by Melch; 09-18-2015 at 08:40 PM.

  7. #967
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    treuhavik's Avatar
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    Vik Vicious
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Melch View Post
    You can change the weight and still use the BiS solver. I got this : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RLYH. I'm not so sure about the accuracy though.
    Also, it doesn't show the stat weight I used. But, I assumed that (like in 2.0) they are the same as DRG's.
    This is exactly what I was referring to, actually. Even if you input new weights, it still doesn't load the most optimal build.

    The set you came up with adds +268.736 of STR in secondaries, which looks better than what I listed (+266.397), but it doesn't meet the accuracy required to ensure hits landing on adds or the manipulator from the front. And, I'm not mathing it out, but based on my experience with the calculator's issue, the set probably isn't even optimal for an accuracy cap of 634.

    So, Ricdeau is correct in that we'll need to build our sets manually for now. Though, even with a 'working' solver, you should always double check its solution. And the amount of accuracy you should be aiming for is around 647, iirc.
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 09-18-2015 at 11:12 PM.

  8. #968
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Melch View Post
    You can change the weight and still use the BiS solver. I got this : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RLYH. I'm not so sure about the accuracy though.
    Also, it doesn't show the stat weight I used. But, I assumed that (like in 2.0) they are the same as DRG's.
    I'm perfectly aware that you can change the weights. It doesn't calculate them correctly which you can see from the math. I'm not sure if it just calculates incorrectly from anything that deviates from the default values or what, but when you manually change them to something close to the values that are estimated to be correct now it doesn't give you a set anything even close to accurate. So you have to do the math yourself or build your own solver for now. I only play monk so I haven't bothered testing with other classes or even to see to what degree it's miscalculating. I just took an old solver sheet made by Dervy and modified it with values for monk.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 09-19-2015 at 04:37 AM.

  9. #969
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I tracked down the bug and submitted a report.

    (that url tho...)
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  10. #970
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Livaille View Post
    In my group, my dark knight makes who ever goes in quarantine with him take one or 2 debuffs and uses dps combo instead of aggro. Also in the last phase, we all stack in front of the manipulator to tank the big blue orb, so that makes already 3 reasons to have front cap ^_^
    sorry, really slow responding to this..

    that explosion is MASSIVE, you can sit on the flank and still get clipped by it with ease, i still have a judgement debuff when that comes around and i can be hit by it no problem without passing accidentally (yes our group actually does judgement)
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