The Real Problem with Parsers

[karateorangutang]

Calling someone out means pointing out something negative about them. It doesn't have to be done in a dickish tone.

Let me tell you a story:

Waaaaay back when I was a young gladiator lad I was DF'ing halatali for the first time. I had tanked for a long time in FFXI and thought I knew everything. When we are pulling mobs I was not using flash enough to keep hate on AoE damage bursts from the mages in the party. This led to a "you suck tank" style rebuf that was greatly unappreciated. However, in that same instance the healer ( a higher level tank) politely pointed out what I should be doing. It was simple advice that I probably could have figured out on my own over time, but I still think kindly of that guy to this day. I have on many occasions in content I don't know been asked to do things differently, it's always been more of a help than a hindrance.

As long as people are going into content with a higher than 3rd grade mentality then you should be giving advice if you are the more experienced one in the dungeon or raid.

[Elazu]

As long as people are going into content with a higher than 3rd grade mentality then you should be giving advice if you are the more experienced one in the dungeon or raid.

Wouldn't be surprised if many people gave up on giving advice, because a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."

[Aiselia]

Wouldn't be surprised if many people gave up on giving advice, because a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."

Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."

[Mama_Nettie]

People that care about using parsers are the people already using parsers.

Oh wait, except for PS3 and PS4 players. While I will be the first to laugh at those plebs (I know, its not their fault...but really, mmo on a console?), I do think they should also have the chance to improve.

And with a worthless combat tracker and no real ingame feedback it makes sense that addon support should be added soon which was promised and should've been here by now grrr will also include some sort of dps tracker.

If only to put those console users in their place.

Yea, those silly console users. I can't believe they would actually play a ps3/ps4 game on their ps3/ps4!

[Sigmakan]

The real reason we dont have parsers: PS3 Limitations

[spelley]

Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."

I have found that 95% of the time, the person accepts the advice as long as it's said in a polite/sugarcoated way. You can't always work everything around the worst of the worst of the community or you end up with Nintendo-style online communication.

[Elazu]

Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."

Like how you assume that parsers will somehow make people jerks!

[spelley]

"Someone needs to not drag the death zone onto the healers." <= Tactful
"Hey Leonardo, stop dragging the death zone onto the healers." <= Less tactful

Or the even nicer way:

"Hey guys, I noticed we were placing the death zone onto the healers by mistake. If we try and put them [here] and [here] (using waypoints) I think we should be able to handle this no problemo. We got this!"

What usually helps the most, and tends to result in people NOT getting up in arms is:

a) Not singling out by name (as you suggest) and
b) Offering, politely, the solution/general tips so you don't just sound like a complainer

[Aiselia]

Like how you assume that parsers will somehow make people jerks!

And like how you assume that having 300 less DPS means the moon will grow a face and crash into the planet in three days!

[Vieirax]

And like how you assume that having 300 less DPS means the moon will grow a face and crash into the planet in three days!

Aren't there actually multiple DPS checks across multiple fights where exactly that can happen but with out the 3 days
days (nice majora mask reference)