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  1. #311
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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshayn View Post
    Dark Arts Power Slash is strong.
    Dark Arts Power Slash is actually really weak and quite a waste of MP. Don't do that. Just do a normal Power Slash combo and use your oGCDs properly when opening a boss fight, 0 enmity issues.
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  2. #312
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    Senliten's Avatar
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    I run strength for the extra enmity. Its nice since most dps just do whatever. AoE. Split targets. Whatever. Am I bad?
    if a mob is no longer hitting you and hitting a dps, yes. Even for a bloody half-second.
    Can't count how many times I pull out of trance and into simply keeping dots sustained that I get hate, then wailed on for a bit cause Drkaherp's, Herpadin's, & Derpior, all were running str on the right.

    If tanks are going to run str, know how to deal with aggro and cooldowns effectively before those DPS that can push out numbers in pugs, make you second guess your decision on a class.
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  3. #313
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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    if a mob is no longer hitting you and hitting a dps, yes. Even for a bloody half-second.
    Can't count how many times I pull out of trance and into simply keeping dots sustained that I get hate, then wailed on for a bit cause Drkaherp's, Herpadin's, & Derpior, all were running str on the right.

    If tanks are going to run str, know how to deal with aggro and cooldowns effectively before those DPS that can push out numbers in pugs, make you second guess your decision on a class.
    I don't get it. STR affects enmity. If tanks wearing STR accessories are losing aggro, then they're bad tanks and it would happen even faster in VIT gear. It has nothing to do with accessories and everything to do with bad players.
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  4. #314
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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    If tanks are going to run str, know how to deal with aggro
    If tanks are losing agro with STR gear it would be even worse if they were wearing VIT gear. I don't understand your point.
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  5. #315
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    Ralvenom's Avatar
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    Ralvenom Mahlfusant
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    If tanks are going to run str, know how to deal with aggro and cooldowns effectively before those DPS that can push out numbers in pugs, make you second guess your decision on a class.
    You do understand more str means more emnity on basic attack combos, right?...
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  6. #316
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    Seshayn's Avatar
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    Seshayn Anea
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Dark Arts Power Slash is actually really weak and quite a waste of MP. Don't do that. Just do a normal Power Slash combo and use your oGCDs properly when opening a boss fight, 0 enmity issues.
    It's a pretty good enmity boost as far as I can tell, albeit I don't care for DRK and only leveled it so I could pose with the hive claymore. Do you have the flat numbers on the enmity multiplier for a combo'd power slash and a combo'd dark arts power slash? I am curious to know just how much the multiplier is.
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  7. #317
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    Senliten's Avatar
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralvenom View Post
    You do understand more str means more emnity on basic attack combos, right?...
    Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
    what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.
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    Last edited by Senliten; 09-10-2015 at 06:36 AM.

  8. #318
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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshayn View Post
    It's a pretty good enmity boost as far as I can tell, albeit I don't care for DRK and only leveled it so I could pose with the hive claymore. Do you have the flat numbers on the enmity multiplier for a combo'd power slash and a combo'd dark arts power slash? I am curious to know just how much the multiplier is.
    No DA Power Slash is 5.5x multiplier, DA Power Slash is 6.5x. It's not worth a Dark Arts at all.
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  9. #319
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    Whiston Aglaeca
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
    what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.
    I think you've just coincidentally found the shittiest tanks the game has seen.

    This isn't an actual issue, nor even remotely relevant to the topic at hand.
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  10. #320
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
    what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.
    Vitality doesn't do jack for enmity despite it technically being our primary stat. Strength, on the other hand, does.

    You've either run into phenomenally crappy tanks or you have no clue what you're talking about.
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