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  1. #301
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    Senliten's Avatar
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    People don't learn very well when they have a cushion protecting their fall. They usually think its fun and make sure to land on that cushion again more often, even bounce on it.

    By cutting the habit early you make better tanks over all because they don't have that safety to rely on, they now have to try their hardest and best to win. Which means better Tanks for everyone.
    A tank dead on the ground can't learn if they can't find out just what the hell hit them so hard, hence the cushioning to learn then make the swap to str when a player is confident in their abilities. Also... i157 and still have issues healing? How bout learning to play your class or just stop trolling and gtfo back to gw2 if you want everyone to just dps.
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  2. #302
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    PogueX's Avatar
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    Ivar Lyfjaberg
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    i hope you guys are right about stacking on strength cause my paladin is going to pick the mythrite earrings of slaying rather then fending!
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  3. #303
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    A tank dead on the ground can't learn if they can't find out just what the hell hit them so hard, hence the cushioning to learn then make the swap to str when a player is confident in their abilities. Also... i157 and still have issues healing? How bout learning to play your class or just stop trolling and gtfo back to gw2 if you want everyone to just dps.
    Someone gets it lmao finally...

    doing leveling roulette que up stone vigil blah but what ev, my tank has 1500 hp the DRG has 2100....>_> oh man I felt bad for the healer oh wait that was me lol the only thing that saved that tank is that I was over geared obviously, and that DRG tanked most of the time but I was healing like I was in A2s haha so str accs are awesome but more so for 50+, new tanks stick with fending and learn a proper cool down rotation first
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    Last edited by Aomine1992; 09-08-2015 at 03:43 PM.

  4. #304
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    EnaChleo's Avatar
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    Ena Chleo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    The way I see it as a Sch who loves to dps

    Lots of Vit = More time in cleric

    Lots of Str = Less time in cleric, but tank is doing more damage because of it.

    So long as the tank has some good left side pieces, knows their stuff, and the healer isn't a monkey, it's fine. Every group I get in a dungeon I size up the situation in the first pull or two and go from there. A dead tank because they overextended is a slower run.
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  5. #305
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    Zaresin's Avatar
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    Kyle Drew
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Str accessories have their place. Mainly with groups that you know and trust. If you're pugging that prob isn't the best place for str accessories as you don't know what they are capable of and neither do they of you. Shaving off a couple minutes using str gear but having to take smaller pulls because you keep dying or taking bigger pulls with mor wealth but take a little longer to kill. It's for the players involved to decide. Not some random kid on a forum post.
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  6. #306
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    rockint's Avatar
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    Max Awesome
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 57
    Yeah, before you come down on tanks, what about the healers who aren't doing damage, but also aren't healing me? They're just not casting anything at all. Why wouldn't I only be using vit gear?

    With healers that I know and trust, I'll be using str gear, balanced to the fight and what I can take without being too much for them to heal, but in a pug, I'm gearing and playing like a tank, and my deliverance button doesn't even exist.

    Also, if anything is dying too slow, the damage dealers in your groups need work. Avoiding damage and following mechanics ofc are their top priority, but you have to be able to do these things while also putting out damage and getting things killed, especially with all the dps races in the game.
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  7. #307
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Or dps who aren't using their CD'S. Unless their a caster I can't see what their doing so we don't know. I'd rather use more vit but iv lost hate to smn and blm lately so need the str to help with hate.
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  8. #308
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    Seshayn's Avatar
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    Seshayn Anea
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Or dps who aren't using their CD'S. Unless their a caster I can't see what their doing so we don't know. I'd rather use more vit but iv lost hate to smn and blm lately so need the str to help with hate.
    I'm sorry but if you have lost hate to SMN and BLM STR isn't your problem. Either your opening threat rotation is weak and needs work, or your opening threat rotation is mediocre and your SMN/BLM are so focused on their damage that they are forgetting to make use of quelling strikes even a little bit. A lot of dps forget they have simple easy to use buttons like that, and they are bad for it. I've also seen a lot of tanks with weak opening rotations. Dark Arts Power Slash is strong.
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  9. #309
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
    Str accessories have their place. Mainly with groups that you know and trust. If you're pugging that prob isn't the best place for str accessories as you don't know what they are capable of and neither do they of you. Shaving off a couple minutes using str gear but having to take smaller pulls because you keep dying or taking bigger pulls with mor wealth but take a little longer to kill. It's for the players involved to decide. Not some random kid on a forum post.
    I pug all the time in strength gear since the instances (level 60) were released and nobody had much in the way of gear. Its fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by rockint View Post
    Yeah, before you come down on tanks, what about the healers who aren't doing damage, but also aren't healing me? They're just not casting anything at all. Why wouldn't I only be using vit gear?

    With healers that I know and trust, I'll be using str gear, balanced to the fight and what I can take without being too much for them to heal, but in a pug, I'm gearing and playing like a tank, and my deliverance button doesn't even exist.

    Also, if anything is dying too slow, the damage dealers in your groups need work. Avoiding damage and following mechanics ofc are their top priority, but you have to be able to do these things while also putting out damage and getting things killed, especially with all the dps races in the game.
    I don't.. think gear matters if that is the case. Maybe they just ran out of mana because you and the DPS had bad DPS? If they are not doing anything, its the same with anything else. Kick em' and report for AFK.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-10-2015 at 03:22 AM.

  10. #310
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    Rin_Kuroi's Avatar
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I run strength for the extra enmity. Its nice since most dps just do whatever. AoE. Split targets. Whatever. Am I bad?
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