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    Ageofwar's Avatar
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    Age Ofwar
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    If you're just learning tanking for now and feel like you're squishy, you should take at least some VIT accessories. Then when you'll start to be used to the tanking mechanics and how to properly mitigate damage, you won't need that extra VIT anymore and should try to swap progressively to STR accessories. It's I think the best way to get used to it.
    got my right side will all VIT accessories atm, and I took advice from a tank in my FC
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    To be fair there is the choice of leaving said player behind and getting good players and kicking said player out of the party if you're in DF. I do it all the time.
    I tried to do that once, but we just got an even worse player. ;-;
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    If I'm healing and I see a Vitality tank, I let Eos take the wheel and DPS my face off.

    OP apparently needs to learn how to play Scholar.
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If I'm healing and I see a Vitality tank, I let Eos take the wheel and DPS my face off.

    OP apparently needs to learn how to play Scholar.
    Who the fuck uses Eos ?
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Who the fuck uses Eos ?
    I do generally in 4-mans, since Fey Wind isn't as big of an increase on just 4 targets and the generally shorter fights in dungeons. Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination are great for buying yourself more time to DPS on large trash packs.
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If I'm healing and I see a Vitality tank, I let Eos take the wheel and DPS my face off.

    OP apparently needs to learn how to play Scholar.
    It never happens like that way.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-03-2015 at 06:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Who the fuck uses Eos ?
    I do in 4 man dungeons. It comes down to allowing me to DPS more vs Fey Wind on 4 targets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah.. except EVERY single tank at high level pulls more then one group at a time. They pull en-masse.

    If they pulled one encounter at a time, I could do that too. To bad it never happens like that way.
    I'm far from maxed out on gear (I'm a Paladin main) and I can manage to DPS even on big pulls as long as the tank is mitigating properly. If they aren't, then that's a problem that needs to be addressed with the tank.

    Don't get me wrong, I use strength gear on my tank. I just don't think it's your place to tell tanks (especially newer tanks) what they should and shouldn't be using based on how slow trash mobs are dying in Expert dungeons. It's a matter of comfort level and building confidence. If you as a healer are running OOM on trash pack pulls, you may want to review some of your skills and how they can help you with mana management. If the mobs are truly dying so slowly that the pulls are drawn out, don't bother pestering your tank about their accessories because that's the least of your worries. You should be lighting a fire under your DPS instead for not killing things fast enough.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 09-03-2015 at 05:24 AM.

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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I tried to do that once, but we just got an even worse player. ;-;
    Overall point though is its not whether there vit or strength spec'd a garbage player is garbage. Nothing besides savage Alexander requires any real dps from tanks if the actual dps are even remotely competent. Is strength better? Of course it is. Is full vit a horrible option if that's how the tank wants to play? No its just simply not playing to there best potential which is why statics are the only real way to 100% have a group of like minded players. DF and PF are made up of different play styles and skill levels. It's not like there stacking int or mind. If a tank has to pull full strength just to clear dungeons or extremes dps need to pull there weight. That's the point that's being made you can't force an advanced or aggressive play style on every other player when it's not actual necessary for the content at hand that's just selfish.
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah.. except EVERY single tank at high level pulls more then one group at a time. They pull en-masse.

    If they pulled one encounter at a time, I could do that too. To bad it never happens like that way.
    Really 0.0 with my 170 book I can just adlo them apply dots bane shadowflare, top them off adlo broil a few times top them off adlo reapply dots if things are still above half hp. You either need better gear or tanks that know how to use cd's properly. Macro your fairy to heal with all your dps spells or something if it's really that hard for you
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    If you're just learning tanking for now and feel like you're squishy, you should take at least some VIT accessories. Then when you'll start to be used to the tanking mechanics and how to properly mitigate damage, you won't need that extra VIT anymore and should try to swap progressively to STR accessories. It's I think the best way to get used to it.
    Going strength doesn't make you suddenly lose more mitigation, defenses. Vitality gear does not make you any tankier, it bloats your HP.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-03-2015 at 06:09 AM.

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