Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Ralvenom]

If tanks are going to run str, know how to deal with aggro and cooldowns effectively before those DPS that can push out numbers in pugs, make you second guess your decision on a class.

You do understand more str means more emnity on basic attack combos, right?...

[Senliten]

You do understand more str means more emnity on basic attack combos, right?...

Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.

[Whiston]

Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.

I think you've just coincidentally found the shittiest tanks the game has seen.

This isn't an actual issue, nor even remotely relevant to the topic at hand.

[Ashkendor]

Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.

Vitality doesn't do jack for enmity despite it technically being our primary stat. Strength, on the other hand, does.

You've either run into phenomenally crappy tanks or you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Senliten]

Vitality doesn't do jack for enmity despite it technically being our primary stat. Strength, on the other hand, does.

You've either run into phenomenally crappy tanks or you have no clue what you're talking about.

by primary that meant weapon. If I wanted to say vit i'd of flat out said vit, or even primary stat. Which of course, this was simply a misinterpretation i suppose.
And instead of simply trying to insult me, you could of simply asked if it was either or, but nah. lets just assume shall we.

[Metalwrath]

Along with also your primary being the bigger contributor as well? yes, however posting right before closing hours = bad idea XD.
what i was trying to really say before rushin out was that it is honestly at times still not enough. esp in pugs. even with those that are semi competent. keep in mind im saying this with the mindset of me throwing stuff out after at least 4 to 6 seconds of waiting to even cast.

Sounds like you got caught out saying something stupid and trying to make up stories now about tanks so bad that never existed in first place.You are probably one of these summoners that tries your best to steal agro off tank and then blame them after.
The fact you even called someone a bad tank for losing agro for even half a second shows your attitude towards tanks.A strong crit run on caster can take agro off for a sec or 2 on a single target.I hope the next tank you try to steal agro off lets you eat the dirt.

[spelley]

Sounds like you got caught out saying something stupid and trying to make up stories now about tanks so bad that never existed in first place.You are probably one of these summoners that tries your best to steal agro off tank and then blame them after.
The fact you even called someone a bad tank for losing agro for even half a second shows your attitude towards tanks.A strong crit run on caster can take agro off for a sec or 2 on a single target.I hope the next tank you try to steal agro off lets you eat the dirt.

A string of crits on a DRG can do it too. Usually if Chaos Thrust + Crit Jump + Crit 4th happens, aggro has a good chance of coming their way. It happens.

[NamoNanamo]

It's funny to get attacked by the boss on Fractal cause my dps (DRG) is too high for some tanks.


And I really don't like low life tank as healer. I'm not feeling safe when I switch cleric Stance and start holy/assize/aero III but I'm happy to got Benediction for crisis.

[Seshayn]

Honestly, just listening to some of my FC healers on mumble yesterday, none of them appreciate str tanks (especially warriors) because they have to constant cast on them and can never find any dps time. And this is in expert roulette. For my experts, I will stick with the proper way to do it. Massive pulls with vit gear and points. Swap to STR 4/1 for any boss (except fractal last boss) because of potential spikes in group damage. I can understand if warriors and drk think wearing some str gear helps the group, as their aoe threat generation abilities do damage. I don't believe any war/drk damage output while aoe tanking 7- 9 targets can outperform a complete loss of healer dps with a couple str pieces. Sorry.

The bonus you get from 5 str pieces could in no way = 11 pieces of mind gear + a weapon swapped into cleric stance tossing aoe at your pack. To think otherwise is to imagine one of your str accessories = 2.2 pieces of the healers gear. You're not fkn superman.

Also, this is obviously intended as my stance on DF tanking and not premade light parties. What you do with your own groups that are ok with whatever that is remains your business.

In addition, if you're in DF alex with pugs, you should really be assuming they aren't going to perform at or above the expectations you would have of your static. Wear your vit for Faust, if people are handlin business and you feel comfortable, swap. Same for A2. Trash before the boss. Oh look, A3, some test dummy bugs for your parsing pleasure. Get a feel for your pug before you take it upon yourself to yoloswag420gitgud. There isn't a fight in DF where you in str gear makes you the hero. Only the idiot.

If you brought your own healers, do what you want of course.

[Mclyde]

Vit doesn't increase dmg mitigation. 3K more Hp doesn't really make a difference (you just stay alive 2 more seconds in Hl content). If the full Str tank use his cd def correctly, the healer is suppose to be able to deal damage too.
Personnaly as an Astro i always prefered str Tank in my team just for the principe of optimization. And often there was bad str tank and bad vit tank. If the tank doesn't use his CDs, vit or str, we have to babysit him.