Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Blitzace]

And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls.

If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.

[Shyle]

Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

Full Str isn't to blame here, the terrible healer is. Even when you said you swapped to fending, you *barely* survived first pull then second you died again. This story has nothing to do with str vs vit, it's just simply the healer was terrible.

[Blitzace]

Full Str isn't to blame here, the terrible healer is. Even when you said you swapped to fending, you *barely* survived first pull then second you died again. This story has nothing to do with str vs vit, it's just simply the healer was terrible.

As i made my point over and over again. You can't simply tell someone to go full STR with randoms. If healer isn't keeping up its not a option.

[karateorangutang]

As i made my point over and over again. You can't simply tell someone to go full STR with randoms. If healer isn't keeping up its not a option.

I ran into this last night actually. I had a SCH that was somehow convinced ( in the Aery) that eos was capable of healing me and he only had to DPS. So I switched to a VIT setup.... and still died. The extra HP did absolutely nothing to save me. I just made the bad situation worse as I couldn't focus down a mob or two to let me life through the liberal use of CD's and stoneskin.

[Sleigh]

And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls

If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.

Just an FYI, most of us who advocate going STR or crafted accessories don't mean to use STR on a PLD doing large pulls. It doesn't actually help the situation on a PLD as gearing towards STR on a DRK or WAR does, where more STR = realistically (sometimes vastly) shorter pull and more HP restored from Bloodbath and/or Abyssal Drain.

[ArdorGrey]

And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls.

If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.

As someone else said, it sounds like that's on the healer. which is weird since you then turn around and say that as a healer you prefer vit tanks.

I can't speak for sch or ast, but as whm it shouldn't matter what the tank gears if you know what you're doing. By the time your divine sealed' HoTs run out the enemies should be resisting holy spam and you should be low on mp and not able to dps much any more anyway unless you just let the tank die. Of course, with a good group enemies should be almost dead by then anyway.

[JackFross]

I mean, I've run full fending on the last boss of Fractal in Shield Oath and had a healer who couldn't keep me alive. That healer had to leave. Another one with equivalent gear came in. I swapped back to full strength gear and slapped on Sword Oath. We cleared in one shot and I was never close to dying.

The gear on the tank isn't the problem. Healers who don't know how to do mechanics and heal at the same time is.

[rawker]

A great healer will not mind healing a full VIT or full STR tank.

I tend to check my healer's stats whenever I'm in an instance. If I see that they have a tank or all tanks leveled up, I know that I am in good hands. Likewise, a great tank have 1/all healing class/es leveled.

[Huntington]

I think right now with Heavensward only being around a little over a month or so, it's a good time to mix STR and VIT. The month before 3.0, we had ran through the content that was out for months on end, more people were used to everything they were doing and I myself ran full STR on WAR and mixed on PLD because by that point nothing was new and I had done nearly everything by then. Right now content is still new to people and they're leveling everything up, so I go mixed on all my tanks, 3 STR and 2 VIT. Two months from now I'll probably be able to run full STR Accessories because people will be used to how the stats and jobs are then, so it's all about who you're with and how long the content has been out.

[JackFross]

STR scales Flash enmity upwards, doesn't it? I've heard so many PLDs cry about Flash being crap and needing a buff, but I've literally never had issues with CoS+Flash in Shield Oath holding mobs, even running with casters dropping 1500+ dps on 5-mob pulls. I just spam Flash/CoS and cycle Goring Blade combos/use Sheltron for MP regen and I never need to even dip below half MP to hold everything to me by a wide margin. The only time I lose hate is a Bard of Machinist going FULL IN ALL BUFFS SINGLE TARGET in a 5+ mob group, which is when I just let them suffer because they're shit dps.