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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
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    That's why we talk about the "tanking meta of this specific game"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    That's why we talk about the "tanking meta of this specific game"
    Well of course, but the specific problem is that tanks in this specific game don't feel like tanks they feel like dps. That's why I said it's a bit misleading to suggest the focus of a tank on dps is 3rd. Tanking in this game is more like 90% focus on dps, 5% focus on aggro, and 5% focus on mitigation. In this game, outside of savage, if a tank focused entirely on dps and totally ignored mitigation(and the only reason it needs to be considered at all in savage is that you need cooldowns to survive the busters) he would be considered a better tank by this community than one who focused on mitigation and let dps suffer.

    You can imagine it makes tanks a tad but upset when they're told they're bad for focusing on tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
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    I agree that tanking in this game is a lot of DPS but what TouchandFeel meant is that the first things you wanna do as a tank is make sure you have agro and make sure you're surviving hits. If you don't do that don't even think about DPSing as a tank. Yeah, having agro and surviving is easy in this game and doesn't take a lot of effort but it's still the first thing you should prioritize. And when some bad try-hard-to-dps-tanks are focusing entirely on DPS and totally ignoring mitigation generally, even if it's in an expert dungeon, they take buttloads of damage and I'm pretty confident that they would never be considered a better tank by the community.
    The best tanks are those who are capable of achieving high DPS while performing its primary tank job perfectly at the same time, but if I see a tank who is not capable of doing that, I much prefer seeing him actually survive the fight by playing it safe than dying while trying to DPS, thus slowing everyone down even more than if he played it safe. And I'm part of the community who promotes tanks wearing STR and DPSing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    And when some bad try-hard-to-dps-tanks are focusing entirely on DPS and totally ignoring mitigation generally, even if it's in an expert dungeon, they take buttloads of damage and I'm pretty confident that they would never be considered a better tank by the community.
    Consider for a moment we're in a thread where the goal is to tell tanks to wear dps accessories, and there are people saying a tank should never be in tank stance. I'm not saying those people are wrong mind you. It just shows how fundamentally flawed the design is when the actual tanking stance, which fits 100% into what you would think a tank should be doing, is considered bad to use.
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