Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Your immature condescension aside, aren't you making the exact same pronouncement that having the option for instant airships is a good thing?

No, what I'm saying is that it kinda gets on my nerves when people argue for others, in the sense of immersion and with choice being given to you, when it's your job to immerse yourself because that is your preference. Those who want to be immersed will do so. Those who could give a lick wont. It's not our job to force others to be immersed when it's not something that is of a high value to them.

Sorry.

[weeble]

they should and are keeping boats though, the thought of boats is still awsome idea ...they just need to add contents in them. we had nm and skellies/nm event that pop. and they had a few quests on them and even repeatable quest on them ...that was fun for awhile too. they also had ghosts that pop at nite that drop spell scrolls that was fun, and ninja quest was on it too. wasn't huge amounts to do but it kept u hopin at start for these things to acure there. ...just add way more stuff to boats and it will be very fun. heck i'd love to even grind party on them for that matter.

[Seo]

I do a lot of traveling between all 3 towns due to linkshell stuff, like when we all get together to do leves, if i had to walk everywhere it would strain what i can do with my friends. When i'm in a hurry i'll teleport to save time and play with them. Anima drains fast and regains slow so if your don't use teleporting responsibly you may be forced to walk everywhere. Teleporting is there so you can play together, it promotes friendship. When im not ina hurry il walk between places anyway. It would be nice if movement could be quicker at time or if there would actually be some danger along the way though. Not just watching countless squirrels as i walk slowly from ul'gah to gridania.

[Altano]

No, what I'm saying is that it kinda gets on my nerves when people argue for others, in the sense of immersion and with choice being given to you, when it's your job to immerse yourself because that is your preference. Those who want to be immersed will do so. Those who could give a lick wont. It's not our job to force others to be immersed when it's not something that is of a high value to them.

Sorry.

Honestly I think the anti-instantaneous airship crowd picked a losing argument by saying it sacrificed immersion. It's a crappy argument. You're right. You can't force it upon somebody. Some people are attached to the personalities of their characters, some couldn't give a crap one way or the other and are just here for the quests and such. Nothing wrong with that.

I just think the simple argument is that the planned implementation makes the airships utterly pointless. Why not just add a teleportation NPC in each adventurer guild? It'd save development resources. I think the better argument is simply this: if the airships are going to be implemented, they should be content that actually serves a purpose, rather than being content that wastes development time/effort and is only there to do what a stock NPC model placed anywhere in the city could do.

[weeble]

yeah and don't forget we can end up using boat 3times a day just for leves or locals if do that all at once. we don't ...even have contents really. soon u will want to do locals then maybe go party. then go do some leves, then oh, yeah i'll come do dungeon, then event for hnm's then this that and the other. u will be on boat so many times it not even funny.

[AlexNiculaie]

Honestly I think the anti-instantaneous airship crowd picked a losing argument by saying it sacrificed immersion. It's a crappy argument. The simple argument is that it makes the airships utterly pointless. Why not just add a teleportation NPC in each adventurer guild. It'd save development resources. I think the better argument is simply this: if the airships are going to be implemented, they should be content that actually serves a purpose, rather than being content that wastes development time/effort and is only there to do what a stock NPC model placed anywhere in the city could do.

Agreed. If you are going to do something, such as boat or airship, it should offer more than just staring at the scenery. Luckily for us, they are doing that. And, while I doubt very much they'll do it, I kind of hope they offer a few "travel packages" that players could choose. Something along the lines of a basic trip which is just scenery, adventurous with random mob spawns, or dangerous with chance of Imperial Airship battles or airborn nms. A pipe dream, I'm sure, but it would be nice.

[Jynx]

Who was pulling from WoW?

You guy want stuff simple and easy to come across like WoW, travel included. I've said my peice and I'll leave it at that both sides are at a impass really so I'll just let it slide.

neither of us are "Convincing" the other or anyone else. Neither am I trying to convince you because that would be pointless, thats like trying to talk to a brick wall you have your opinion and I have mine. Your arguements are as silly to me as mine are to you.

To me it's not about logistics or making sense, hell not even really the immersion. It's having substantial content thats worth earning. It may be we don't know enough about the airship yet but it just seems like a cop-out for SE to run around present issues instead of fixing them. Such fast transportation shouldn't exist in MMO's without a heavy cost. In my opinion people have been spoiled by anima and now just expect things to play like a series of instanced areas.

I want a vast world with millions of places to explore, I don't want to walk for the sake of walking. I want to walk because I never know what lies around the next corner, I want a sense of adventure, I want to feel like the world was created to be a world not a series of areas I warp from at a snap of my fingers. People look at MMO's far too often like "Work" and thats what all these min/max time consumers are doing, they want to get the most work done in the least ammount of time possible.

Whats fun about that? I'll never know, you need to accept that there are others who don't share your viewpoint. Fast-travel is just a small part of the larger issue that is at hand and pretending like it's not going to effect the entire way the game developes is just being naive.

/thumbs up

Way to support the team, maybe next time you will deem yourself worthy of actually thinking instead of quoting.

[PrettyPrincess]

Way to support the team, maybe next time you will deem yourself worthy of actually thinking instead of quoting.

No I'm more of a cheer leader

[Rokien]

I always have to agree with Jynx <3 But I've already put my two cents on my THREAD. Just wanted to support this one as well!

[Azurymber]

Except I've already had to go into the middle of nowhere for quests. R36 btn quest? "HERE GO THROUGH THIS AREA THAT HAS PTEROCTRAPS AND ANOLES 20 RANKS ABOVE YOU"

There are plenty of other quests that require to walk to random locations as well. Hamlets anyone? I dont remember being able to teleport to those. That requires walking.

LOLLLL I remember that quest..... best quest ever, i think i died like 5 or 10 times and raged about how SE fails at mob placement